TSOL Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 When did we become a country of pussys selling out to the government? Some of you guys make me wanna puke.
Andy1 Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: And if you think that applies in any way, shape or form to J6ers then you've been had by the propagandists and you're forever lost to those of us who live in reality. But by all means carry on with your support of commies. It’s not about what I think. It is what a jury of citizens decided after being presented the facts in a court of law. Are jury decisions in courts now irrelevant because they are contrary to the Trump narrative?
B-Man Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Federal Public Defender Sounds Alarm Over 'Unconstitutionally Overbroad' Warrants Against Jan. 6 Defendants One of the most troubling things about the Biden regime has been the unequal application of the law we have seen. What has always made the U.S. special in the history of the world was not only its freedom but its rule of law. That’s why people came to us from troubled places all over the world, fleeing banana republics. Yet the Biden team seems to be intent on turning us into the banana republics that people have fled from. We’ve seen the stark difference in the way that the Jan. 6 defendants have been treated versus the BLM or other leftist rioters. We’ve seen all kinds of tactics brought to bear when it comes to anything related to Jan. 6, whereas in a similar riot against the inauguration of President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20, 2017; most of those arrested had their charges dismissed. One of the tactics raising concerns is the “geofence warrant” that I’ve previously written about. There’s more from defense attorney Tara Fish,who takes it apart in her motion to suppress on behalf of defendant David Rhine. Fish argues first that the search was massively overbroad, first going through “millions of private accounts” to determine if any fit within the data of being in or near the Capitol. “The warrant was therefore unconstitutionally overbroad, a modern-day general warrant.” That’s a big problem because warrants have to be narrow and specific. Federal public defender convincingly argues that the FBI used an unprecedented “modern-day general warrant” to seize personal data of anyone who “could have been” in the approximate vicinity of the Capitol on Jan 6. “Defending democracy” by obliterating bedrock civil liberties https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/11/29/federal-public-defender-sounds-alarm-over-unconstitutionally-overbroad-warrants-against-jan-6-defendants-n666145
T master Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 On 10/4/2022 at 10:29 AM, Tiberius said: Nothing to see here, huh? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/10/04/oath-keepers-trial-jan-6-donald-trump/ more: As the prosecutors revealed their case, it was hard not to think about all that happened in the White House as the Oath Keepers planned their mission. The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection showed that Trump, who screamed foul about the election even before any votes were cast, promoted lies about voter fraud even as his own aides repeatedly debunked his conspiracy theories. He tried to pressure Georgia election officials to “find” just enough votes to flip the state’s results. And he pressured state lawmakers to reverse their voters’ verdicts by appointing phony electors. When all that didn’t work, Trump summoned his supporters to D.C. for a “wild” rally. He delivered an incendiary speech to a group that he knew was armed, according to testimony before the Jan. 6 committee. He then instructed them to march to the Capitol (allegedly attempting to join them himself) and sent a tweet declaring that Vice President Mike Pence “didn’t have the courage” to reject electoral votes. He refused to call off the mob for more than three hours. All of this to keep the eyes off of the Biden family & just what they have been doing to make money with the Chinese & Ukraine as their pawns . Keep your focus on the prize ! 1 1
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Author Posted November 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, T master said: All of this to keep the eyes off of the Biden family & just what they have been doing to make money with the Chinese & Ukraine as their pawns . Keep your focus on the prize ! No, it's actually about convicting dangerous criminals and stuffing them in jail. What possible problem could you have with that? 1
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2022 Author Posted November 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, BillStime said: It’s a freaking cult Good for them! Hope their lives improve now
BillsFanNC Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Andy1 said: It’s not about what I think. It is what a jury of citizens decided after being presented the facts in a court of law. Are jury decisions in courts now irrelevant because they are contrary to the Trump narrative? Simple solution is a change of venue , which has been repeatedly requested and all denied in many of these cases. There is not a single person even remotely related to even the extreme outer reaches of the Trump orbit who has a snowballs chance in hell of receiving a fair trial in DC. But sure, it's about the facts and a blind justice system. 14 hours ago, B-Man said: Federal Public Defender Sounds Alarm Over 'Unconstitutionally Overbroad' Warrants Against Jan. 6 Defendants One of the most troubling things about the Biden regime has been the unequal application of the law we have seen. What has always made the U.S. special in the history of the world was not only its freedom but its rule of law. That’s why people came to us from troubled places all over the world, fleeing banana republics. Yet the Biden team seems to be intent on turning us into the banana republics that people have fled from. We’ve seen the stark difference in the way that the Jan. 6 defendants have been treated versus the BLM or other leftist rioters. We’ve seen all kinds of tactics brought to bear when it comes to anything related to Jan. 6, whereas in a similar riot against the inauguration of President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20, 2017; most of those arrested had their charges dismissed. One of the tactics raising concerns is the “geofence warrant” that I’ve previously written about. There’s more from defense attorney Tara Fish,who takes it apart in her motion to suppress on behalf of defendant David Rhine. Fish argues first that the search was massively overbroad, first going through “millions of private accounts” to determine if any fit within the data of being in or near the Capitol. “The warrant was therefore unconstitutionally overbroad, a modern-day general warrant.” That’s a big problem because warrants have to be narrow and specific. Federal public defender convincingly argues that the FBI used an unprecedented “modern-day general warrant” to seize personal data of anyone who “could have been” in the approximate vicinity of the Capitol on Jan 6. “Defending democracy” by obliterating bedrock civil liberties https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/11/29/federal-public-defender-sounds-alarm-over-unconstitutionally-overbroad-warrants-against-jan-6-defendants-n666145 Again using geofence warrants to snare J6ers. Huh? How can this be? We've been repeatedly told that it's not possible to track people who visit 26 ballot drop boxes a day across several counties by using geofence technology. It's a debunked conspiracy theory dontcha know?
ChiGoose Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 For the “No Republican can get a fair trial in DC” crowd, try to remember that if you are arguing politics on an online forum, you are in the extreme minority of weirdos (this includes myself). ~99% of Americans don’t follow politics as closely and are less politically activated. The jury pool is going to be made up of normies, not weirdos like us. Remember that even a red-hat MAGA juror found Manafort guilty in one of his trials. While some jury pools are generally more favorable to certain defendants than others, the idea that a trial is fundamentally unfair due to the political lean of a jurisdiction is just brain worms nonsense. 1
T master Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 23 hours ago, Tiberius said: No, it's actually about convicting dangerous criminals and stuffing them in jail. What possible problem could you have with that? I actually have no problem with putting those that break the law in jail but it has to go both ways all the time not when it's convenient that is what i have a problem with ! Kind of why you & i don't see eye to eye because you see nothing wrong other than what you deem to be wrong through bias & hatred for rather than facts .
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2022 Author Posted December 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, T master said: I actually have no problem with putting those that break the law in jail but it has to go both ways all the time not when it's convenient that is what i have a problem with ! Kind of why you & i don't see eye to eye because you see nothing wrong other than what you deem to be wrong through bias & hatred for rather than facts . No need to say "both ways." They committed a crime and will now spend decades behind bars
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