Week 5: Steelers at Bills 10/9 1pm

[Stank_Nasty]

I saw there was a bit of discussion a couple pages back on McDermott having suffered a couple losses to rookies. I dunno if this tweet has been pasted here yet but here’s the raw stats…

 

 

[BigAl2526]

32 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am kinda worried about the mobility that Pickett brings. I think they aRe going to need to contain him in the pocket. He has some wheels and will get out on the edge and run. 

You're worried about Pickett a week after facing Lamar Jackson?

[The Wiz]

Steelers fans yelling at the buffalo defense:

 

[ColoradoBills]

6 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

So who do you see Stevenson as beating out on the current roster?

If it's now

Diggs

Davis

McKenzie

Shakir

Kumerow

Austin

 

Well let's put it this way.  The entire NFL knows what Tavon Austin is worth.  He may get a call-up, but he is no one's full time WR.

Stevenson may or may not end up being better but it's the youth and potential that would be the question.

Even though he has been on IR he has had time to delve into the playbook and take a lot of mental snaps.

 

When the time comes Austin still can be on the PS and Stevenson can take a slot on the 53 and show if he can stay there.

 

24 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I saw there was a bit of discussion a couple pages back on McDermott having suffered a couple losses to rookies. I dunno if this tweet has been pasted here yet but here’s the raw stats…

 

 

 

Those 3 losses result in an 11-point combined differential.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

48 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

We just kept Lamar Jackson in check. I think we’ll be OK.

 

23 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

You're worried about Pickett a week after facing Lamar Jackson?

It’s not like I don’t think we can keep Pickett’s running in check, it’s that the defensive scheme may not be focused on that.

 

We kept Lamar in check because there was a spy and a real concerted effort to make sure he didn’t beat us with his legs. I think we have to do something similar with Pickett (though not to the same degree). He is a guy that is going to bomb it, or take off running— your raw gunslinger rookie. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

You are correct per this source

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/gabriel-davis/10597

 

 

Boo-boo foot

[VaMilBill]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am kinda worried about the mobility that Pickett brings. I think they aRe going to need to contain him in the pocket. He has some wheels and will get out on the edge and run. 

Honestly, I feel like we should give him the Lamar Jackson treatment. Worst thing we can do is go man-to-man and allow him to run wild on us

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Boo-boo foot

 

IIRC, that term was disdainfully applied to Jairus Byrd when he was unhappy about his contract and developed a terminal case of plantar fasciitis and a couple other players who were felt to be "goldbricking" on their way back to the gameday roster.

 

Do you think Davis is exaggerating the injury or goldbricking it?  Seems like the opposite from here.

 

But, the ankle does seem to be developing into a chronic and recurring problem and that ain't good for a #2

Edited October 5, 2022 by Beck Water

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

IIRC, that term was disdainfully applied to Jairus Byrd when he was unhappy about his contract and developed a terminal case of plantar fasciitis and a couple other players who were felt to be "goldbricking" on their way back to the gameday roster.

 

Do you think Davis is exaggerating the injury or goldbricking it?  Seems like the opposite from here.

 

But, the ankle does seem to be developing into a chronic and recurring problem and that ain't good for a #2

 

 

It might have started with Byrd but it's a TSW tradition for players with recurring foot injuries.    

 

More closely associate with Sammy Watkins though, I think..........he was basically a 70 yard per game receiver his first two NFL seasons.......then got "boo-boo foot" and turned into the kind of producer Gabe has been his first 3 seasons,  which is a pedestrian 36.7 yards per game.  

 

Considering that this foot injury won't seem to stop recurring I'd suspect he should have had a procedure to tighten it up.    Perhaps he did, it has failed and we don't know.   But it would be interesting to find out if the team has wanted him to get surgery and he has refused.   He isn't a big fan of medical science,  we know that so maybe he has been dodging the knife?

 

 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It might have started with Byrd but it's a TSW tradition for players with recurring foot injuries.    

 

More closely associate with Sammy Watkins though, I think..........he was basically a 70 yard per game receiver his first two NFL seasons.......then got "boo-boo foot" and turned into the kind of producer Gabe has been his first 3 seasons,  which is a pedestrian 36.7 yards per game.  

 

Considering that this foot injury won't seem to stop recurring I'd suspect he should have had a procedure to tighten it up.    Perhaps he did, it has failed and we don't know.   But it would be interesting to find out if the team has wanted him to get surgery and he has refused.   He isn't a big fan of medical science,  we know that so maybe he has been dodging the knife?

 

 

 

 

I'm reading mostly about ankle ailments for Davis, but talk in this thread has distilled down to the dreaded Byrd/Watkins boo-boo foot syndrome. Are we conflating things for the sake of simple narratives, or is this in fact an actual recurring foot injury? 

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

I'm reading mostly about ankle ailments for Davis, but talk in this thread has distilled down to the dreaded Byrd/Watkins boo-boo foot syndrome. Are we conflating things for the sake of simple narratives, or is this in fact an actual recurring foot injury? 

 

Edited October 5, 2022 by BADOLBILZ
I edited it for you

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am kinda worried about the mobility that Pickett brings. I think they aRe going to need to contain him in the pocket. He has some wheels and will get out on the edge and run. 

Does he bring more than Tannyhill or Jackson? I doubt it. 

[HamSandwhich]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

“I don’t knowwww JIM!!!!”

 

it’s mostly ptsd from the chefs playoff game 🤮

I forgot about that bs 

[ToGoGo]

7 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

I'm reading mostly about ankle ailments for Davis, but talk in this thread has distilled down to the dreaded Byrd/Watkins boo-boo foot syndrome. Are we conflating things for the sake of simple narratives, or is this in fact an actual recurring foot injury? 

 

The next time those posters have wise insight, will be the first time. 

[Richard Noggin]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's a blanket term for any recurring and production limiting injury below the shin.   Everything else is an upper body injury.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Does he bring more than Tannyhill or Jackson? I doubt it. 

In my mind, Tannehill is a good comp.

 

 

[freddyjj]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am kinda worried about the mobility that Pickett brings. I think they aRe going to need to contain him in the pocket. He has some wheels and will get out on the edge and run. 

GTFOH!  I am a Pitt Panther football fan and can attest to the fact that Kenny is not a running threat.  416 carries for 809 yds is less than 2YPC.  He did have 20 Rushing TDs in 34 games at Pitt.  He is a threat to run in goal line  situations like last week

 

 

[BillnutinHouston]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I saw there was a bit of discussion a couple pages back on McDermott having suffered a couple losses to rookies. I dunno if this tweet has been pasted here yet but here’s the raw stats…

 

 

 

But let's remember that these stats reflect both Poyer and Hyde playing (maybe a bit better coverage disguising ability than exists now, without Hyde).

[BADOLBILZ]

20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

In my mind, Tannehill is a good comp.

 

 

 

 

Tannehill was actually a really athletic QB who struggled to push the ball downfield early.

 

Pickett is more like a poor man's Joe Burrow or Kirk Cousins.    He can make a lot of throws and can get hot and look really good.   I don't know if he will develop into any kind of franchise QB.........but he's better than the sad sack check down artist Mitchell Trubisky.

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Just rewatched the first half of the Baltimore game. I watched only the offensive snaps. 
 

Man, that was brutal. A few things really stuck out to me, especially in the run game:

 

-most of their struggles came from out of 21 personnel, in 8 man boxes. I don’t know why Dorsey likes to pack them in and try to go Mano y Mano, but I don’t think we have the horses to just flat out move the LOS.
 

-they actually ripped off a few good runs in the first half. Singletary’s fumble was well blocked and he probably goes for 8 or 9 on that play if he hangs on. Moss had a five yard run on a nice hole. 
 

- We ran the ball twice on 3&1. On the first attempt out of 21 personnel, the box was stacked and the formation had everyone bunched tight to the LOS. Morse and Bates were blown up. The play never stood a chance. On the second attempt, we were out of 11 personnel, in a 2x2 spread set. The box was light and a handoff to l Singletary went for almost 5.

 

Other items of note: 

 

Drops from Diggs, Singletary, Cook (I’d throw crowder in here but that was a fast ball).

 

Multiple tipped passes

 

They ran on multiple occasions what looked at first to be a wheel combination, both times with Davis/McKenzie, but instead of wheeling  up the sideline, McKenzie banged it off for a 5 yard slant. 
 

Diggs is often open. 

 

Edit: Anyone know how religiously Dorsey sticks to his script? How many plays? 

 

Edited October 5, 2022 by EmotionallyUnstable