SoMAn Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Not sure if this has been brought up since yesterdays win. One of the stranger circumstances that can occur in a game is a player carrying the ball (Singletary)but not wanting to go into the end zone, even though it’s right there. At the same time the opposition wants him to score. The Ravens know the best odds of getting the ball back for their offense is to let him score so there will be time left to march upfield. So here’s my question: As Singletary is trying to stop at the one yard line and go down to give himself up, hypothetically, could the Ravens’ defenders have forced a TD by holding him upright and carrying him into the end zone against his will? Anyone know what the rule book says about that? Edited October 3, 2022 by SoMAn Quote
Motorin' Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, SoMAn said: Not sure if this has been brought up since yesterdays win. One of the stranger circumstances that can occur in a game is a player carrying the ball (Singletary)but not wanting to go into the end zone, even though it’s right there. At the same time the opposition wants him to score. The Ravens know the best odds of getting the ball back for their offense is to let him score so there will be time left to match upfield. So here’s my question: As Singletary is trying to stop at the one yard line and go down to give himself up, hypothetically, could the Ravens’ defenders have forced a TD by holding him upright and carrying him into the end zone against his will? Anyone know what the rule book says about that? Absolutely. It's happened before. 3 Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 If the Ball would have crossed the Goal Line (without being down it was a TD). That is why he started to curl at like the 3 so he didnt get pulled in 1 Quote
eball Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 A player can "give himself up" on the field; he doesn't have to be tackled. I can't imagine the league would allow defenders to carry a player into the end zone. 2 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Absolutely. It's happened before. Really? Can you cite where/when? Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Raven's fans still think that he was going to go in for the touchdown. It was then big that Allen got the 1st down without scoring also which ensured that there'd be no time left on the clock. The Bills did everything right the last 2 mins Edited October 3, 2022 by Billsfan1972 2 8 Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: A player can "give himself up" on the field; he doesn't have to be tackled. I can't imagine the league would allow defenders to carry a player into the end zone. Well if he gave himself up on the ground the minute he was touched he would be ruled down. But if he was still UP, there is nothing saying that he couldnt be pulled in, that is why he started his turtling away from the endzone 4 3 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Really? Can you cite where/when? Seen the player pushed over the goal line. Singletary made sure that couldn't happen. Quote
eball Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: The Bills did everything right the last 2 mins Yeah, but if they only had a better coach... 1 3 1 Quote
Hsker4life Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Ravens fans are still mad at the defender who “made the tackle”, but I think it’s pretty obvious Motor was going down on his own. 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Really? Can you cite where/when? I'm pretty sure I remember New England doing this years ago. The Browns did it last year: https://thecomeback.com/nfl/browns-defenders-push-austin-ekeler-into-the-end-zone-to-get-the-ball-back.html 2 Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Hsker4life said: Ravens fans are still mad at the defender who “made the tackle”, but I think it’s pretty obvious Motor was going down on his own. McD even told Singletary NOT to score before the play, then Josh came off said I want to sneak for the first but NOT Score. They knew exactly what to do in that series. 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eball said: Yeah, but if they only had a better coach... Shall I say they did everything wrong last week? I've already acknowledged and congratulated them Captain Obvious. Edited October 3, 2022 by Billsfan1972 Quote
stevewin Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Ravens fans still think that he was going to go in for the touchdown. It was then big that Allen got the 1st down without scoring also which insured sure that there'd be no time left on the clock. The Bills did everything right the last 2 mins This was an underrated great play in the sequence - for Josh to know exactly where to go to get the first and not score, and then to actually execute it with such a small margin for error and bodies everywhere - just a great play Edited October 3, 2022 by stevewin 1 Quote
Einstein Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Really? Can you cite where/when? 2 1 4 Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Yes they can as long as he isnt down at any point and the momentum keeps moving so the whistle doesnt blow. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Not sure if this has been brought up since yesterdays win. One of the stranger circumstances that can occur in a game is a player carrying the ball (Singletary)but not wanting to go into the end zone, even though it’s right there. At the same time the opposition wants him to score. The Ravens know the best odds of getting the ball back for their offense is to let him score so there will be time left to march upfield. So here’s my question: As Singletary is trying to stop at the one yard line and go down to give himself up, hypothetically, could the Ravens’ defenders have forced a TD by holding him upright and carrying him into the end zone against his will? Anyone know what the rule book says about that? have you ever seen a guy get tackled from behind and get a few more yards? Same thing. The officials don't interview the defender and ask them if they wanted the guy to get more yards or not and if they did, it would not be relevant....forward progress is forward progress. Edited October 3, 2022 by Matt_In_NH Quote
SoMAn Posted October 3, 2022 Author Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: have you ever seen a guy get tackled from behind and get a few more yards? Same thing. The officials don't interview the defender and ask them if they wanted the guy to get more yards or not and if they did, it would not be relevant....forward progress is forward progress. I believe the question was answered with the video that Einstein posted. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, eball said: A player can "give himself up" on the field; he doesn't have to be tackled. I can't imagine the league would allow defenders to carry a player into the end zone. It’s absolutely legal Singletary has to fall on the ground to give himself up and then the play will be over It would be illegal to carry a downed player in the end zone… But just as offense can push the pile forward Technically the defense can to Quote
badassgixxer05 Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 anyone have a video of the singletary play? Quote
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