A Few Thoughts About the Ravens Game, in no particular order

[fasteddie]

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.

 

1 - Stadium Experience - Living in Baltimore made attending this game a no-brainer.  I recently discovered a light rail that comes every 10-20 and is $4 round trip.  Considering most parking is $40+ and traffic can be terrible, this made the experience so much better than in the past.  I was well prepared with rain gear, so I didn't get noticed as a Bills fan much.  Those who did notice, didn't seem to care.  I was surprised to see how much the threat of rain hurt attendance.  Tickets for lower bowl were $400 a week prior, but down to almost $75 on game day.  The upper deck was half full, and that may be generous.  In our section, we had some guys who tailgated a bit too hard, and watching the range of emotion on them as the game transpired was entertaining in itself.  I do appreciate the large hallways where the food is, but can't understand how an Italian Sausage is $5 less than in Buffalo.  They also do a great job of representing local restaurants in the stadium.  $16 for a tall cider is a bit much though.  From a game flow perspective, I was surprised when I saw the box score at home.  Obviously, we shut them out in the second half and came all the way back, but it felt like Lamar had way more yards in the second half than he did.  It really felt like the Ravens were going to put it away at any moment, but couldn't finish

 

2 - Questions - Not my normal format, but people don't typically read these whole things, so might as well ask now.  On the very first drive with the INT, who's fault was that?  From the replay I saw, the ball may have been tipped AND it went through Knox's hands.  Is that correct?   Also, on the Lamar scramble for the first down that was reviewed and called a yard short, did he not get the ball past the sticks?  It was really tough to see what was going on for some of these plays and the replays in the stadium were less than stellar.

 

3 - Take away their favorite Toy - In typical Hoodie 🤢fashion, the Bills have done a great job of shutting down the opposing teams favorite weapon.  Against the Dolphins, Hill was non-existent.  In this game, you almost never heard Mark Andrews name get called.  I was worried about him having a big day against us as I didn't know who was possibly going to cover him.  At times, it was comical to see TJ follow him around because of the size difference.  Overall, while the defense did a great job in coverage with everyone, I was surprised to see how little Lamar even targeted Andrews.  I saw a lot of post game comments about how the Bills D threw out a lot of confusing looks, but still.  Just a great job with making Andrews a non-factor.

 

4 - Lately, I've been thinking it's just someone else's job to care
Who am I to sympathize when no one gave a damn?
I've been thinking it's just someone else's job to care
Who am I to wanna try?

 

5 - Refs - I promise, I will get to the good stuff soon, but holy crap were these guys terrible.  I'm going to have to watch the replay of this game to make sure I'm not crazy, but there were a bunch of calls I saw on the screen that looks like they missed.  However, the lack of holding calls against the the Ravens OT's was insane.  There were multiple times where you could see the Bills DE being dragged to the ground, holding up their other arm, and getting their jerseys spun around.  It was really, REALLY bad.  I don't know how these weren't called and it was beyond "letting them play."

 

6 - Receivers - I know the ball was wet and we cleaned it up a bunch in the second half.  Seriously, Diggs, Shakir, and Knox all made beautiful sideline catches during the comeback.  However, I am getting really concerned with Knox and Davis.  It seems like both didn't commit to some catches, tried making body catches, or just got physically outplayed by the defender.  Similar to last year, Davis appears to be hurt and he's a mere shell of himself out there.  It's to the point where he might be better resting, as he doesn't seem to pose a threat at all.  Knox, I have no idea what's going on there.  I get that we are using him to block a lot, but still.  I don't get the contract if this is how we are going to use him.  I know Josh has a lot of faith in him, but from my seats, Knox killed that first drive.  With injuries as they are, and I'm not a trade guy, but I wonder if Beane should be making calls.  I heard someone mention DJ Moore from Carolina as a target and I think he'd be perfect here.  I don't think we can rely on OBJ bouncing back, maintaining his form, and learning the offense quick enough to be a real factor this season.

 

 7- Interior Defensive Line - Was anyone else concerned at the massive holes being opened up down the middle by the Ravens offensive line?  I knew our pass rush up the middle would suffer without Oliver and Phillips, but I figured Settle and Jones would be able to take up space.  There were a few plays were it was like the red sea parted.  We were useless on short yardage rushing situations (again, until when it mattered in the end).  Just a minor concern here, but noticeable.  I can't wait to get Jordan and Ed back.

 

8 - Dorsey/Kromer - I know I keep going negative, and I'm sorry, but it's what I saw.  Our play calling for running plays, and subsequent blocking support is getting worse each game it seems.  After the first Poyer interception, Dorsey called some terrible plays and basically wasted the opportunity.  Yes, Dorsey also gets credit for the winning drive, which was perfect, but the run play calling was terrible.  I was hopeful after the Rams game, as we showed so many different looks.  But now, it's shotgun handoffs between the G/T for no gain on second down.  There's no creativity, no push up front, nothing.  Where's the jet sweep?  Where's the toss play?  Where's anything else?  The Chiefs right now are scary on offense because they are finding a rushing attack that you have to respect.  Right now, I don't know if we could run the ball if the defense only had 3 in the box.

 

9 - The Tampa Affect - As we came back in this game, all I could think about was the Bucs game from last year.  The Bills were a shell of their former selves that season and couldn't really get anything going until halftime at the Bucs game.  While we didn't win that game, our offense finally woke up and we were a different team after.  Granted, I thought we'd come out swinging after the Dolphins loss, but I was insta-depressed to see the same crappy execution in the first quarter of this game.  The Ravens seemed faster, hit harder, and actually wanted to be on the field.  We gave up another short field turnover and were down 20-3 early.  However, we have Josh and that man doesn't go down easily.  To see this team pull themselves back together and execute at the level they did...Wow.  It wasn't an explosive performance nor all at once.  It almost felt like the Patriots Superbowl comeback, slow and steady.  Either way, just an amazing job by the defense to mostly keep Lamar contained (Seriously, what was the spy plan?)  Poyer continues to earn more money on that extension.  And many guys made the most of their opportunities; I'm looking at you Hamlin and Shakir.  Hopefuly, this will carry over into our next game, we can get up by 21 so Cook can get more carries and confidence.  I'm sorry, but he's just killing me right now for a 2nd round pick.  He played at Georgia, this shouldn't be too much for him.

 

10 - The Boys - There were moments when I wanted to walk onto the field an punch Edmunds in the face for running into blocks as if he got a bonus from it.  However, those moments weren't nearly as outstanding as the positive plays.  For a team that doesn't blitz, we sent our guys a few times and Edmunds was able to make some great plays in the backfield, solo even.  The blitzing didn't always hit home, and Lamar had way too much time and escape routes sometimes, but you can't argue with the end result.  Edmunds made some great tackles, covered the middle of the field well, and really is turning in some nice consecutive games.  Milano was just a stud.  I don't think he was fully healthy last year, because he was FAST out there.  Milano was a wrecking ball out there at times and should have had another interception on a really bizarre play.  I can't give enough credit to what this defense did, and the linebackers were a huge part of it.

 

11 - Bonus Random thoughts:

• The Ravens played mainly man cover-2 against us in the first half.  In the second, they adjusted to more of a Cover 1 at times.  While they had more guys in the box, that's when we started moving the ball a lot more.  It shouldn't work that way, but it did.  I love being able to see the whole field when at games, just to watch the coverages.  For the Bills, Lamar has proven he likes to throw deep down the middle, and we didn't give him that chance all game.  It was impressive how much we kept them to short field plays
• Holding aside, Von and Groot were non-stop in this game and I expect more 7 sack games once Ed and Jordan are back.  Watching Lamar get swarmed at times felt great.  On Lamar's last interception, it was like a wall of defenders coming at him that only allowed him to back peddle and make a poor throw.
• I was able to see the replay when I got home, but it didn't do this play justice. The sideline throw to Knox in the 4th was absolutely amazing.  Josh was on his back foot and put that ball on a perfect trajectory to Knox.  Seeing it live, my mouth dropped open.  For those there, please tell me you saw the same thing
• Special teams has to get a game ball for all facets of their play.  In wet conditions, they were perfect and a difference maker
• Before you gang up on me, Josh is Josh.  He doesn't need a thought every single week.  He was a little off again on crossing routes, but really pulled it together on the comeback.  Seeing the Ravens fans get quieted by some of Josh's runs was hysterical.  The Bills fans in my section kept saying "Yeah, we got one of them too."
• The conversation of when it's appropriate to stand really hit in this game.  In the lower section, we were the only area standing almost the entire game.  Why?  Because of 5 Bills fans.  A pair of 2 in one row, and a group of 3 in another refused to sit down, making everyone behind them have to stand to see the field.  I was embarrassed by them, as they didn't seem to care about their surroundings at all.  I get big plays and whatnot, but when you are literally the only people standing around you, read the room.

 

Go Bills!

Regarding question 2, if you imagine the line to gain was the goal line, and there was a pylon on the sidelines next to the field of play, the football must travel inside the pylon to be a first down. Just as it would if the player were trying to score at the goal line, the ball must touch the pylon or be in the field of play.

I believe the ball crossed the sidelines before reaching the line to gain. It's so difficult to see this on 2 dimensional tv, so it all depends upon the original call. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by fasteddie

[BuffalOhio]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Thanks, nice read as usual, and sadly some folk don’t know how to act in public, it’s even worse when it’s our own tribe…, 

I was the the Rutgers @ Ohio State game on Saturday.  It's the same thing there.  One dude just kept standing all the time for no reason.  Sit. The. %$#@. Down!

 

 

[Virgil]

44 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Not sure where to put this but, seems to me, Elam not getting his props:

 

Kaiir Elam vs Ravens:

 

43 coverage snaps

1 target 0 receptions allowed

 

The Bills rookie CB was LOCKDOWN.

 

(Twitter: NFL rookie watch)

 

It's so hard to call out DB's sometimes because when they do their jobs, you don't notice them.  While they don't have a lot of all-stars, the Ravens receivers have been a pleasant surprise this season.  They were non-existent this game. 

 

When I saw Dane was playing, I felt comfortable with Elam, Dane, and TJ out there.  However, not to knock any of them, we saw a great performance without them against the Dolphins, minus that deep play to Waddle.  This scheme is incredibly DB friendly to the point where I'm starting to wonder how plug and play these guys are.  As in, will we ever really pay a DB like Tre again?

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

Regarding your questions...

 

Ball was tipped near the line of scrimmage and Knox made a very strange effort at it. Maybe the tip had him leaning one way and was trying to lean back the other way - but wasn't a very good looking play for him trying to adjust.

 

Lamar's was close, and depended on your interpretation of exactly when/where you spot the ball when flying out of bounds. I think he probably had it, but glad they didn't overturn.

 

Correct on the tipped pass to Knox, he was expecting it right in the body and it ended up fluttering and arriving behind him, he reached and tipped it again.

 

The Lamar stretch looked like it was marked exactly right, a half yard short. It's where the ball crosses the boundary while the runner is still inbounds, OR the location of the ball when the runner steps out of bounds, if the ball hasn't yet crossed the boundary. While Lamar was still inbounds, the ball reached the boundary a half yard short.

[Virgil]

28 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

 

From Baltimore, but quoting Dickins? Surely, you could've found an appropriate Edgar Allen Poe line to quote.

 

You're right, I'm sorry.  With the comeback and tale of two halves, I couldn't help myself

13 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

Regarding question 2, if you imagine the line to gain was the goal line, and there was a pilon on the sidelines next to the field of play, the football must travel inside the pilon to be a first down. Just as it would if the player were trying to score at the goal line, the ball must touch the pilon or be in the field of play.

I believe the ball crossed the sidelines before reaching the line to gain. It's so difficult to see this on 2 dimensional tv, so it all depends upon the original call. 

 

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's different for the goal line.  The goal line extends infinitely, so it doesn't matter which side of the pylon the balls breaks the plain, so long as your last contact with the field was inbounds

17 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

It was the worst of times 

It was the best of times 

 

 

 

 

I mentally had this chalked up as a loss because of how well the Ravens play at home, especially against us.  I was at the Dolphins game there too.  Maybe I'm the Jinx

1 hour ago, Beast said:

On Poyer’s 2nd INT. Shaq Lawson being mugged.

 

Yeah, this was all day and total bull####.  We could see it 30 rows back, but not the ref right next to it

[fasteddie]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

You're right, I'm sorry.  With the comeback and tale of two halves, I couldn't help myself

 

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's different for the goal line.  The goal line extends infinitely, so it doesn't matter which side of the pylon the balls breaks the plain, so long as your last contact with the field was inbounds

They changed that rule years ago (the Madden explanation). Many goal line replays look for the ball to either hit the pilon or be inside it. 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

They changed that rule years ago (the Madden explanation). Many goal line replays look for the ball to either hit the pilon or be inside it. 

 

Really?  Have you ever found it in writing?  Now I have to look.  I wasn't aware that was changed

[DCbillsfan]

Nice writeup.  Edmunds and Milano were everywhere.  Did anyone notice on the Ravens last drive, 2nd and goal from 2 I believe, the play by 93 Brandin Bryant against the Ravens FB.  Just blew him up and shoved him back 2 yards.  That FB weighs 310 pounds.  Milano stuffed the back for 2 yard loss.  Phenomenal play by defense.

[fasteddie]

54 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

Really?  Have you ever found it in writing?  Now I have to look.  I wasn't aware that was changed

Rule 11 (Scoring) of the NFL rulebook. I'm old and haven't figured out how to copy it from my phone.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by fasteddie

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Nice writeup.  Edmunds and Milano were everywhere.  Did anyone notice on the Ravens last drive, 2nd and goal from 2 I believe, the play by 93 Brandin Bryant against the Ravens FB.  Just blew him up and shoved him back 2 yards.  That FB weighs 310 pounds.  Milano stuffed the back for 2 yard loss.  Phenomenal play by defense.

 

So many Bills fans at the game had no idea who Ricardo was and were shocked at how big he is

[DCbillsfan]

I've watched that play about 10 times.  Just incredible.

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

I understand freeing up space, assuming protections, and possum blocks enough to know that you don't run directly into a blocker who is clearly coming to the next level for you.  He overall did great, but still had a few plays where he allowed himself to disappear from the play completely. 

 

That's why I said it felt that way, even though they didn't do anything.  The time of possession for the Ravens really threw me off.  Made it feel different than it was

 

Except that is not true.  If a lead blocker is coming through a potential hole - it is Edmunds job to go hit that blocker in the hole. 
 

The idea is to fill the hole and ensure the blocker is removed and there should be a free defender to attack the hole and make the tackle. That defender is usually Milano or Taron Johnson.

 

That was what happened at the goal line TFL by Milano.  Edmunds met Ricard in the hole closing the inside lane and forced the outside path.  The DL took out the the pulling Raven - allowing a free Milano to attack the play and make the tackle.

 

To man people think LBs should always avoid the blockers, but in this defense - each player has a role and when done properly - there should be 1 free defender the majority of the time to make a play - the difficulty is against a running QB like Jackson (or Allen) the QB is no longer a non entity and it potentially takes away the free player advantage.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

39 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

It's so hard to call out DB's sometimes because when they do their jobs, you don't notice them.  While they don't have a lot of all-stars, the Ravens receivers have been a pleasant surprise this season.  They were non-existent this game. 

 

When I saw Dane was playing, I felt comfortable with Elam, Dane, and TJ out there.  However, not to knock any of them, we saw a great performance without them against the Dolphins, minus that deep play to Waddle.  This scheme is incredibly DB friendly to the point where I'm starting to wonder how plug and play these guys are.  As in, will we ever really pay a DB like Tre again?

 

I think the difference with a vet like Tre is when he reads the play and gets the turnover.  The stars see things on film everyone else does, and know how to freelance correctly to make a big play.  You want flexibility to play man and blitz at times as well.  

[TFBillsfan]

BTW where was Reggie Gilliam yesterday. Don’t even recall him blocking?

[SectionC3]

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.

 

1 - Stadium Experience - Living in Baltimore made attending this game a no-brainer.  I recently discovered a light rail that comes every 10-20 and is $4 round trip.  Considering most parking is $40+ and traffic can be terrible, this made the experience so much better than in the past.  I was well prepared with rain gear, so I didn't get noticed as a Bills fan much.  Those who did notice, didn't seem to care.  I was surprised to see how much the threat of rain hurt attendance.  Tickets for lower bowl were $400 a week prior, but down to almost $75 on game day.  The upper deck was half full, and that may be generous.  In our section, we had some guys who tailgated a bit too hard, and watching the range of emotion on them as the game transpired was entertaining in itself.  I do appreciate the large hallways where the food is, but can't understand how an Italian Sausage is $5 less than in Buffalo.  They also do a great job of representing local restaurants in the stadium.  $16 for a tall cider is a bit much though.  From a game flow perspective, I was surprised when I saw the box score at home.  Obviously, we shut them out in the second half and came all the way back, but it felt like Lamar had way more yards in the second half than he did.  It really felt like the Ravens were going to put it away at any moment, but couldn't finish

 

2 - Questions - Not my normal format, but people don't typically read these whole things, so might as well ask now.  On the very first drive with the INT, who's fault was that?  From the replay I saw, the ball may have been tipped AND it went through Knox's hands.  Is that correct?   Also, on the Lamar scramble for the first down that was reviewed and called a yard short, did he not get the ball past the sticks?  It was really tough to see what was going on for some of these plays and the replays in the stadium were less than stellar.

 

3 - Take away their favorite Toy - In typical Hoodie 🤢fashion, the Bills have done a great job of shutting down the opposing teams favorite weapon.  Against the Dolphins, Hill was non-existent.  In this game, you almost never heard Mark Andrews name get called.  I was worried about him having a big day against us as I didn't know who was possibly going to cover him.  At times, it was comical to see TJ follow him around because of the size difference.  Overall, while the defense did a great job in coverage with everyone, I was surprised to see how little Lamar even targeted Andrews.  I saw a lot of post game comments about how the Bills D threw out a lot of confusing looks, but still.  Just a great job with making Andrews a non-factor.

 

4 - Lately, I've been thinking it's just someone else's job to care
Who am I to sympathize when no one gave a damn?
I've been thinking it's just someone else's job to care
Who am I to wanna try?

 

5 - Refs - I promise, I will get to the good stuff soon, but holy crap were these guys terrible.  I'm going to have to watch the replay of this game to make sure I'm not crazy, but there were a bunch of calls I saw on the screen that looks like they missed.  However, the lack of holding calls against the the Ravens OT's was insane.  There were multiple times where you could see the Bills DE being dragged to the ground, holding up their other arm, and getting their jerseys spun around.  It was really, REALLY bad.  I don't know how these weren't called and it was beyond "letting them play."

 

6 - Receivers - I know the ball was wet and we cleaned it up a bunch in the second half.  Seriously, Diggs, Shakir, and Knox all made beautiful sideline catches during the comeback.  However, I am getting really concerned with Knox and Davis.  It seems like both didn't commit to some catches, tried making body catches, or just got physically outplayed by the defender.  Similar to last year, Davis appears to be hurt and he's a mere shell of himself out there.  It's to the point where he might be better resting, as he doesn't seem to pose a threat at all.  Knox, I have no idea what's going on there.  I get that we are using him to block a lot, but still.  I don't get the contract if this is how we are going to use him.  I know Josh has a lot of faith in him, but from my seats, Knox killed that first drive.  With injuries as they are, and I'm not a trade guy, but I wonder if Beane should be making calls.  I heard someone mention DJ Moore from Carolina as a target and I think he'd be perfect here.  I don't think we can rely on OBJ bouncing back, maintaining his form, and learning the offense quick enough to be a real factor this season.

 

 7- Interior Defensive Line - Was anyone else concerned at the massive holes being opened up down the middle by the Ravens offensive line?  I knew our pass rush up the middle would suffer without Oliver and Phillips, but I figured Settle and Jones would be able to take up space.  There were a few plays were it was like the red sea parted.  We were useless on short yardage rushing situations (again, until when it mattered in the end).  Just a minor concern here, but noticeable.  I can't wait to get Jordan and Ed back.

 

8 - Dorsey/Kromer - I know I keep going negative, and I'm sorry, but it's what I saw.  Our play calling for running plays, and subsequent blocking support is getting worse each game it seems.  After the first Poyer interception, Dorsey called some terrible plays and basically wasted the opportunity.  Yes, Dorsey also gets credit for the winning drive, which was perfect, but the run play calling was terrible.  I was hopeful after the Rams game, as we showed so many different looks.  But now, it's shotgun handoffs between the G/T for no gain on second down.  There's no creativity, no push up front, nothing.  Where's the jet sweep?  Where's the toss play?  Where's anything else?  The Chiefs right now are scary on offense because they are finding a rushing attack that you have to respect.  Right now, I don't know if we could run the ball if the defense only had 3 in the box.

 

9 - The Tampa Affect - As we came back in this game, all I could think about was the Bucs game from last year.  The Bills were a shell of their former selves that season and couldn't really get anything going until halftime at the Bucs game.  While we didn't win that game, our offense finally woke up and we were a different team after.  Granted, I thought we'd come out swinging after the Dolphins loss, but I was insta-depressed to see the same crappy execution in the first quarter of this game.  The Ravens seemed faster, hit harder, and actually wanted to be on the field.  We gave up another short field turnover and were down 20-3 early.  However, we have Josh and that man doesn't go down easily.  To see this team pull themselves back together and execute at the level they did...Wow.  It wasn't an explosive performance nor all at once.  It almost felt like the Patriots Superbowl comeback, slow and steady.  Either way, just an amazing job by the defense to mostly keep Lamar contained (Seriously, what was the spy plan?)  Poyer continues to earn more money on that extension.  And many guys made the most of their opportunities; I'm looking at you Hamlin and Shakir.  Hopefuly, this will carry over into our next game, we can get up by 21 so Cook can get more carries and confidence.  I'm sorry, but he's just killing me right now for a 2nd round pick.  He played at Georgia, this shouldn't be too much for him.

 

10 - The Boys - There were moments when I wanted to walk onto the field an punch Edmunds in the face for running into blocks as if he got a bonus from it.  However, those moments weren't nearly as outstanding as the positive plays.  For a team that doesn't blitz, we sent our guys a few times and Edmunds was able to make some great plays in the backfield, solo even.  The blitzing didn't always hit home, and Lamar had way too much time and escape routes sometimes, but you can't argue with the end result.  Edmunds made some great tackles, covered the middle of the field well, and really is turning in some nice consecutive games.  Milano was just a stud.  I don't think he was fully healthy last year, because he was FAST out there.  Milano was a wrecking ball out there at times and should have had another interception on a really bizarre play.  I can't give enough credit to what this defense did, and the linebackers were a huge part of it.

 

11 - Bonus Random thoughts:

• The Ravens played mainly man cover-2 against us in the first half.  In the second, they adjusted to more of a Cover 1 at times.  While they had more guys in the box, that's when we started moving the ball a lot more.  It shouldn't work that way, but it did.  I love being able to see the whole field when at games, just to watch the coverages.  For the Bills, Lamar has proven he likes to throw deep down the middle, and we didn't give him that chance all game.  It was impressive how much we kept them to short field plays
• Holding aside, Von and Groot were non-stop in this game and I expect more 7 sack games once Ed and Jordan are back.  Watching Lamar get swarmed at times felt great.  On Lamar's last interception, it was like a wall of defenders coming at him that only allowed him to back peddle and make a poor throw.
• I was able to see the replay when I got home, but it didn't do this play justice. The sideline throw to Knox in the 4th was absolutely amazing.  Josh was on his back foot and put that ball on a perfect trajectory to Knox.  Seeing it live, my mouth dropped open.  For those there, please tell me you saw the same thing
• Special teams has to get a game ball for all facets of their play.  In wet conditions, they were perfect and a difference maker
• Before you gang up on me, Josh is Josh.  He doesn't need a thought every single week.  He was a little off again on crossing routes, but really pulled it together on the comeback.  Seeing the Ravens fans get quieted by some of Josh's runs was hysterical.  The Bills fans in my section kept saying "Yeah, we got one of them too."
• The conversation of when it's appropriate to stand really hit in this game.  In the lower section, we were the only area standing almost the entire game.  Why?  Because of 5 Bills fans.  A pair of 2 in one row, and a group of 3 in another refused to sit down, making everyone behind them have to stand to see the field.  I was embarrassed by them, as they didn't seem to care about their surroundings at all.  I get big plays and whatnot, but when you are literally the only people standing around you, read the room.

 

Go Bills!

FYI - I’ve been a season ticket holder for decades.  Our section in the lower bowl stands for every meaningful play.  Has done so for years.  Many other sections are like that in the lower bowl.  So these Bills fans are just bringing a slice of Buffalo on the road with them.  Their behavior is not only appropriate, but normal in Buffalo.  

1 hour ago, fergie's ire said:

It looked to me like because it was tipped and off target, Knox thought it was intended for someone else.  So he started for it but stopped thinking, "No I don't want to deflect a ball headed for x."  Not sure who it was but there was another receiver close by.

It was tipped.  The ball basically kept its spiral because of its velocity. 

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

FYI - I’ve been a season ticket holder for decades.  Our section in the lower bowl stands for every meaningful play.  Has done so for years.  Many other sections are like that in the lower bowl.  So these Bills fans are just bringing a slice of Buffalo on the road with them.  Their behavior is not only appropriate, but normal in Buffalo.  

They were in Baltimore, not Buffalo.

[SectionC3]

Just now, LeGOATski said:

They were in Baltimore, not Buffalo.

They were at a Bills game. 

[HappyDays]

I was actually satisfied with our run offense in this game, Moss runs excluded. Singletary had the fumble but he averaged 4.5 YPC. Allen had 6.4 YPC (yes I'm aware some of this was scrambling on pass plays). That's all I need out of the run game. I'm not expecting crazy high volume or production, just run it often enough and efficiently enough to keep the defense off balance.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

It was the worst of times 

It was the best of times 

 

 

 

 

Also lost the last 5 home games. 

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2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

It hit Prince Emili. I don't know if it was tipped or it just hit him, but he caused the INT.

Yes Prince made the tip/deflection. I lost track at how many tipped balls in that game. I still don't know why Knox froze after Josh's first tip. It was still catchable.