Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Suprised this story didn't get more play here. Way to go, lib media.... Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Suprised this story didn't get more play here. Way to go, lib media.... Linky 337562[/snapback] The retraction's not going to make one damned bit of difference, either. It's not like the Islamic world is going to read it and say "Oh...we were wrong, we're sorry. Carry on." And I'm sure the irony of the Afghanistanis rioting over the loss of a single copy of a widely printed book when they destroyed two literally irreplacable religious icons themselves back in '99-'00 is lost on precisely everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hmm. A news magazine prints an article that contains erroneous information from a government official who now states (according to this morning's radio news) that he can't remember where he heard the information. A riot ensures, and people die. A bunch of government agencies produce a bunch of documents that contain erroneous information. Based on that, an invasion occurs, 1600+ American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis die. What's the difference? We hold news magazines to a higher standard than the government of the most powerful country on earth? Wow. So, you're right, where IS the outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hmm. A news magazine prints an article that contains erroneous information from a government official who now states (according to this morning's radio news) that he can't remember where he heard the information. A riot ensures, and people die. A bunch of government agencies produce a bunch of documents that contain erroneous information. Based on that, an invasion occurs, 1600+ American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis die. What's the difference? We hold news magazines to a higher standard than the government of the most powerful country on earth? Wow. So, you're right, where IS the outrage? 337573[/snapback] News flash: The US wasn't the only country that believed Iraq had WMD. Far from it. Another News Flash: We're fighting a war that has a heavy public-image aspect to it and Newsweek has just undermined that part of the war effort. They are consistently anti-American, as are Time and other major newsmagazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 What's the difference? We hold news magazines to a higher standard than the government of the most powerful country on earth? Wow.So, you're right, where IS the outrage? 337573[/snapback] I'm outraged at how stupid your analogy is. Does that count? There is a slight difference in using essentially all the intelligence information from around the world as the basis for an invasion (not to mention that the onus was on Saddam to prove he was clean and not us) and rushing a BS story to print because it helps make America look bad. The War in Iraq was to remove a dangerous dictator from power and (hopefully) spark the spread of democracy in the Middle East; Newsweek's goal (their *only* goal) was to crap on America. They don't rush half-truth, unconfirmed stories to print that make our country look good, now do they? It's typical of journalism these days anyway. If someone is smart enough and honest enough to be a good journalist, they've probably selected a better profession. And we're left with the bottom of the barrel squad that currently makes up our "best" journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Here's the kicker....they used an UNNAMED source without verification! What's the purpose of that? What possible benefit could come from a story like this? Ever notice that you never hear anything negative from the newsreels of the WWII era? Perhaps we should go back to that model. Lock the press out of sensitive matters because they are obviously up to no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 i love to see how long it takes blzrul to listen to Air America for her posting material before she turns around and posts a rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 What's the difference? We hold news magazines to a higher standard than the government of the most powerful country on earth? Wow.So, you're right, where IS the outrage? 337573[/snapback] i've never met a government employee that had to meet high standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 This sucks. Big time. Newsweek should retract the story and run a story in next week's magazine talking about the retraction. They also need to invesigate the editors who checked out the story, as well as the authors of the story, and remove them if they didn't meet Newsweek's standards. The pentagon though doesn't seem to understand how the media works. "“Newsweek hid behind anonymous sources, which by their own admission do not withstand scrutiny,” Whitman said. “Unfortunately, they cannot retract the damage they have done to this nation or those that were viciously attacked by those false allegations.”" Of course they're going to stand behind an anonymous source, thats how you get insider information. If the sources' name gets out, they're going to stop telling you stuff. Other sources that you have will stop telling you stuff too. The calls to censor the press on here are equally appaling. We have the freedom of press built into our laws to provide a check on our government, and with all of the secrecy of this current administration, we need the freedom of press to balance it out. blzrul's rant makes me want to buy some guns and shoot some democrats with the guns that they hate so much. The white house is handling this very well I'd say. Keep pressuring for a full retraction and pressure newsweek to hold the writers and editors accountable for the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Fug Newsweek! Thats borderline treason. They are gonna get buried. There will be a huge backlash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Fug Newsweek! Thats borderline treason. They are gonna get buried. There will be a huge backlash... 337663[/snapback] Yeah, until American Idol starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Yeah, until American Idol starts... 337683[/snapback] Of course. Whereas Newsweek has clearly demonstrated itself to be fiction now, American Idol is "reality TV". Which do you think is more important, fiction or reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Of course. Whereas Newsweek has clearly demonstrated itself to be fiction now, American Idol is "reality TV". Which do you think is more important, fiction or reality? 337684[/snapback] What's the old saying? Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The calls to censor the press on here are equally appaling. We have the freedom of press built into our laws to provide a check on our government, and with all of the secrecy of this current administration, we need the freedom of press to balance it out. 337646[/snapback] While I'd normally agree with you, the idea that restricting the press's ability to lie constitutes unwarranted trampling of their rights doesn't quite sit well with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The calls to censor the press on here are equally appaling. We have the freedom of press built into our laws to provide a check on our government, and with all of the secrecy of this current administration, we need the freedom of press to balance it out. 337646[/snapback] Censor is probably not the right word. Hold accountable works better. Of course, asking the press to be responsible is the moral equivalent of taking a 5th graders mouth shut when they won't behave. Whaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The calls to censor the press on here are equally appaling. We have the freedom of press built into our laws to provide a check on our government, and with all of the secrecy of this current administration, we need the freedom of press to balance it out. 337646[/snapback] This is a fuggin' war. Sorry, but there is censorship during wartime. Everything the press put out in WWII was run past the censors first. It's common sense. F Newsweek, Time, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN . The almighty$ rules over lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 This is a fuggin' war. Sorry, but there is censorship during wartime. Everything the press put out in WWII was run past the censors first. It's common sense.F Newsweek, Time, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN . The almighty$ rules over lives. 337709[/snapback] I guess you never read "1984" by George Orwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 This is a fuggin' war. Sorry, but there is censorship during wartime. Everything the press put out in WWII was run past the censors first. It's common sense.F Newsweek, Time, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN . The almighty$ rules over lives. 337709[/snapback] I like how you didn't mention Fox News there. Hey man, they did it in World War II, it must be good! You know what else might save us some lives? We could put all Middle Eastern people and Middle Eastern Americans into Internment camps! With censorship of the press, this would be pretty easy. We did it in WWII! The almighty political correctness rules over lives, apparently. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I like how you didn't mention Fox News there. Hey man, they did it in World War II, it must be good! You know what else might save us some lives? We could put all Middle Eastern people and Middle Eastern Americans into Internment camps! With censorship of the press, this would be pretty easy. We did it in WWII! The almighty political correctness rules over lives, apparently. Oh well. 337790[/snapback] At Fox news America comes first. That's what is wrong with the rest of the media. They are Americans FIRST. If I was Rather or those CBS guys who interviewed Saddam several years ago, I would then go to the military and tell them everything I saw, on the off chance it may have helped get that scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The problem here, among others, is that I hear a lot from the left side of the aisle as to how much we should be working to "win the hearts and minds" "seek out the reasons and adress them" etc. Do you have ANY idea how mauch damage this just did to those efforts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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