ILBillsfan Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 3:50 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Agree. Johnson seems like a hard hitter, and does well blitzing and in run support. Just doesn’t seem to have the necessary cover skills that they require in this defense from the safeties. Just wait though when Tre is back, and they shift Benford to safety. Gonna be some elite coverage on the back end!! Expand Tre to safety then that knee won't see the stress that it does at CB to start? I know he is a great corner but if you needed some built in live play time to even give him a little more ease on the knee it could be in play Quote
freddyjj Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 5:16 PM, ILBillsfan said: Tre to safety then that knee won't see the stress that it does at CB to start? I know he is a great corner but if you needed some built in live play time to even give him a little more ease on the knee it could be in play Expand If you play S in Bills D then you are a key in run support. And you may be asked to drop back into a different coverage look. Can't see how all the thumping with Online and running in coverage as a S is easier than CB. Quote
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 To be honest Hamlin is showing people why you do not need two 10M dollar safeties in this defense. Quote
NewEra Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:36 AM, Big Turk said: You mean except when he comes up to make a tackle on a run play and acts as the edge setting defender and then let's the RB bounce outside him for 15 yards and a first down? Expand Seriously? An nfl football player that didn’t make the right read on one instance? You post about that? Meh Quote
ILBillsfan Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 5:36 PM, freddyjj said: If you play S in Bills D then you are a key in run support. And you may be asked to drop back into a different coverage look. Can't see how all the thumping with Online and running in coverage as a S is easier than CB. Expand Free safety isn't nearly the thumber position that is normally where you see Poyer at The biggest stress CB vs Safety on the knees is the constant back peddling and turning in the same motion Quote
freddyjj Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 5:50 PM, ILBillsfan said: Free safety isn't nearly the thumber position that is normally where you see Poyer at The biggest stress CB vs Safety on the knees is the constant back peddling and turning in the same motion Expand I tore ACL so agree on back pedaling and changing directions being stressors. In Bills run looks Poyer is usually the force or in box safety - not Hyde. Hyde plays deep in Cover 1 more than Poyer. But Bills often use their safeties interchangeably. Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 5:16 PM, ILBillsfan said: Tre to safety then that knee won't see the stress that it does at CB to start? I know he is a great corner but if you needed some built in live play time to even give him a little more ease on the knee it could be in play Expand You don't want to switch an all pro CB to safety in his prime. I would condone putting Rhodes in there when he is healthy. I think he would be a good fit there Quote
Plano Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:36 AM, Big Turk said: You mean except when he comes up to make a tackle on a run play and acts as the edge setting defender and then let's the RB bounce outside him for 15 yards and a first down? Expand cry less Quote
BullBuchanan Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 For a redshirt rookie 6th round pick, he's doing a nice job. The fact that him and JJ have even made the team is impressive, and Hamlin has made some flash plays. Maybe he isn't a long term answer at the position, and that's ok. If he is, it's a massive get. Quote
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 6:45 PM, Plano said: cry less Expand Who is crying? Pay attention more. Understand football better. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Hamlin was a rookie with 50 snaps last season. He is looking pretty good so far (126 snaps) and gaining experience that can only be accomplished by playing. I'm feeling good he can be the FS going forward. Quote
Plano Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 7:13 PM, Big Turk said: Who is crying? Pay attention more. Understand football better. Expand what did I tell you about crying? 1 Quote
Virgil Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 I kept forgetting what number Hamlin was, so I was consistently confused as to who this little guy was running all over the field. Dude was pure energy out there making the most of his opportunity Quote
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 7:31 PM, Plano said: what did I tell you about crying? Expand 2 Quote
NewEra Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 I’m really happy to see Hamlin getting this opportunity. He and Dane are a great story. His arms are 2.5 inches longer, 3 inches taller and imo, plays faster than Johnson. Most importantly, he’s under contract for the next 2 years. JJ is a FA after this season. 1 Quote
T master Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:31 AM, John from Riverside said: I told you about Hamlin Expand No i told you 😂 Quote
ComradeKayAdams Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 7:24 PM, ColoradoBills said: Hamlin was a rookie with 50 snaps last season. He is looking pretty good so far (126 snaps) and gaining experience that can only be accomplished by playing. I'm feeling good he can be the FS going forward. Expand Maybe, but I also really like Benford's long-term potential at safety. If White, Elam, and Taron Johnson are all healthy by November, then I'd look into moving Benford to FS opposite Poyer if Hamlin struggles at all and if Benford looks ready to handle the mental demands of Hyde's position. Xavier Rhodes at FS could be another option. Quote
Steptide Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 While I always want our starters playing, this experience for our "backups" is really huge down the stretch Quote
FilthyBeast Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 I'd still like to see a larger body of work before jumping to conclusions but it's no secret this team has built some quality depth the last few years. I think the real test of the future of safety for this team will be what the position looks like next year without both Hyde and Poyer which still think this the likely outcome all fans should be expecting. Quote
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