chongli Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: All I know is he won 5 Rings and we have won 0 rings. He has six rings, right? Unless I am missing something. Quote
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 My order: 1. Lombardi 2. Paul Brown 3. Belicheat 4. Walsh 5. Parcells Quote
First Round Bust Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) on my top list I would include Halas, Lambeau in the top 10 next level off the top of my head - not in order Andy Reid - regular season winning since 1999 - 5th best win % in histiry- coaching tree -1 super bowl win Tom Flores - 2 super bowl wins - 12 season but only 97-87 so at the bottom of the top Mike Shanahan - 2 super bowl wins, coaching tree Jimmy Johnson - 2 super bowls - 80-64 record Mike Tomlin - 1 super bowl win, 13 non-loosing seasons - 133-74 record George Seifert - 2 super bowl wins - 98-30 in SF John Harbaugh - 148-96 (. 607) - 1 loosing season in 13 years - 1 super bowl win Pete Carroll - 152–104–1 (.593) - 1 super bowl win Paul Holmgren - 1 super bowl win, coaching tree, Tom Coughlin - 2 super bowl win over Brady and coach Dungy and Bill Cowher - 1 super bowl - 66 and 62 percent win percent Sean Payton 1 super bowl, 63 win percent, next coach of the Cowboys ? zero super bowls: Marty Schot, Dan Reeves, Marv Levy as well interesting that George Allen has a winning percent of 72% - no super bowls - the future is now - Over the Hiil gang Edited October 1, 2022 by First Round Bust edit Quote
Bills2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, chongli said: He has six rings, right? Unless I am missing something. Yes. 1 less than Brady. Just a typo. I am very aware of how many rings they both have. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Belicheat cheated and w/o Brady has a losing record Most coaches without their star quarterback have a losing record lol He was the last coach to make the Browns relevant He literally took the Patriots to the playoffs last year with a rag arm quarterback and an overrated defense he’s the best coach of this generation 1 Quote
Gugny Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: Yes. 1 less than Brady. Just a typo. I am very aware of how many rings they both have. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Actually Belichick has 8 SB rings, one more than everyone's suddenly beloved Tommy. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Most coaches without their star quarterback have a losing record lol He was the last coach to make the Browns relevant He literally took the Patriots to the playoffs last year with a rag arm quarterback and an overrated defense he’s the best coach of this generation the Browns were so relevant that they left town Bledsoe a rag arm QB? —— 4 straight Super Bowl appearances how many coaches achieved that Edited October 1, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: the Browns were so relevant that they left town Bledsoe a rag arm QB? —— 4 straight Super Bowl appearances how many coaches achieved that Where do you get Drew Bledsoe out of this? Last year he coached a Average at best team to the playoffs… A rag arm quarterback in Mac Jones and a super overrated defense… He coached that to the playoffs He won 11 games with Matt Cassel as his starter … Coached the Browns to the playoffs Not to mention the tandem with him and Brady… Which started with shutting down the greatest show on turf He’s a defensive mastermind Quote
mjd1001 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I don't have strong opinions about this stuff, and have no idea how you would rate these guys. Having said that, in my lifetime the best I have seen is Belichick, and before him it was Parcells. So in the era I am familiar with, those are 1 and 2. I remember Landry and guys like that but I was young. I'd say Parcells. Like you said it is hard to judge, but Parcells didn't have a super QB. He did have a great, MVP level D-player though. Shula would be up there. Andy Reid. I don't know,I try to look at who was really good without a domiant QB. Quote
vincec Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 I would add Dick Vermeil and Weeb Ewbank to the consideration for that 10th spot. 1 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Where do you get Drew Bledsoe out of this? Belicheat went to the Pats when Drew was QB. The team was already playoff caliber when he got there Then there was the Tuck game that f’d the Raiders then it was PATRIOTIC to root for them after 9-11. Then there was Spygate do I need to keep listing them? Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: There has never been an elite head coach who didn't have an elite QB. The only one close might be Parcells. You take the starting QBs away from the "best ever," coaches and they're very likely JAGs. You don't win 6 super bowls if you're not a great coach. I think that's fair But at the same time it's hard to ignore his record without Tom. Tom Brady covered up a lot of his mistakes/poor draft selections. Even in that 2012 year when they lost in the SB to the giants, they got to the SB with having the last ranked defence. BB supposed to be a defensive coach but Tom Brady somehow carried that team to a SB appearance. 1 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s a defensive mastermind That couldn’t stop Josh Allen last season barring 60 mile per hour winds He was so amazed he personally walked into the Bills locker room and had a chat with Josh. What is Tua’s record against BB? Edited October 1, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote
TOboy Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 I can’t really comment on coaches before my time. For me it’s Bill Walsh (innovation) and Parcels (got it done without the best QB’s). Based on accomplishments Belichek has to be in the convo, but I wouldn’t take him over a prime Walsh or Parcels. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Gugny said: There has never been an elite head coach who didn't have an elite QB. The only one close might be Parcells. You take the starting QBs away from the "best ever," coaches and they're very likely JAGs. You don't win 6 super bowls if you're not a great coach. the cheating helped The constant bending and breaking of the rules helped him too the Refs turning a blind eye also helped them. if you have to cheat to win. Are you really that good? Quote
Son of a K-Gun Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 Most Super Bowl wins as head coach; 6 - Belicheat (Tom Brady x 6) 4 - Chuck Noll (Terry Bradshaw x 4) 3 - Bill Walsh (Joe Montana x 3) Joe Gibbs (Doug Williams, Joe Theismann, Mark Rypien) One of these coaches took a slightly different approach from the rest… Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 you need great QB’s to win ? Explain how you Win with nobodies like Jeff Hosteler and Flacco and Dilfer Quote
BillsPride12 Posted October 1, 2022 Posted October 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you need great QB’s to win ? Explain how you Win with nobodies like Jeff Hosteler and Flacco and Dilfer Incredible, elite Defenses Quote
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