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Von could get himself in the defensive MVP talk if he has a few sacks in the next couple games then has multiple against Mahomes in 3 weeks. 

He's been disrupting many plays.  He nearly caused a defensive TD/Safety on Tua right before they punted from their own 1.  He had 4-5 plays against Titans that were very close to Sacks / 2 very close to Forced Fumbles.

Also, his impact on Rousseau likely can't be understated. Greg has 3.5 sacks and leads the NFL in Tackles For Loss 

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13 minutes ago, jaybills said:

Has there ever been offensive and defensive player of the year on the same team in the same year? Allen and Miller, and a Super Bowl ring, of course. 

 

There have been a few times it was the same player, Alan Page with the Vikings and Lawrence Taylor with the Giants but I am assuming you are meaning two different players on the same team.

 

Yes one time...49ers with Steve Young winning MVP and Deion Sanders winning Defensive MVP.

 

Have been a few times where teams missed it by one year, including the Bills with Bruce Smith winning Defensive MVP and then Thurman winning MVP the next year.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Von has been worth it. We’d be OK with Jerry but we lucked out with Chandler Jones not taking our money. See if you can find him.

 

 

 

 

Great point on Chandler Jones.....he also would not have brought the confidence, energy and mentality of Von that the whole team seems to be soaking in 
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Von could get himself in the defensive MVP talk if he has a few sacks in the next couple games then has multiple against Mahomes in 3 weeks. 

He's been disrupting many plays.  He nearly caused a defensive TD/Safety on Tua right before they punted from their own 1.  He had 4-5 plays against Titans that were very close to Sacks / 2 very close to Forced Fumbles.

Also, his impact on Rousseau likely can't be understated. Greg has 3.5 sacks and leads the NFL in Tackles For Loss 

 

Rousseau was up there on TFL's last year as well, he is a force in run defense

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29 minutes ago, jaybills said:

Has there ever been offensive and defensive player of the year on the same team in the same year? Allen and Miller, and a Super Bowl ring, of course. 

Haven't you heard? We lost in week 3, the season is over.

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4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

He might be the best EDGE rusher of all time.  He's certainly top 5 and up there with Bruce.  

Whoa...slow down tiger. 

He is 83 sacks behind Bruce.  As many will point out Bruce did that primarily as a 3-4 DE at a time where pass attempts per game was far lower than now. Miller started as an off ball OLB edge rusher. He has developed into a great 4-3 DE. Also if Watt was healthy, I'm not sure Miller would be best this season let alone all time. 

Regardless Miller has been fantastic and I love how they are using him and keeping him fresh for the playoffs. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Whoa...slow down tiger. 

He is 83 sacks behind Bruce.  As many will point out Bruce did that primarily as a 3-4 DE at a time where pass attempts per game was far lower than now. Miller started as an off ball OLB edge rusher. He has developed into a great 4-3 DE. Also if Watt was healthy, I'm not sure Miller would be best this season let alone all time. 

Regardless Miller has been fantastic and I love how they are using him and keeping him fresh for the playoffs. 

 

Watt is phenomenal, but he's a brick powerhouse.  Miller has a level of finesse to his game that is unmatched, he's practically invented new techniques that other pass rush specialists try to emulate. 

 

Bruce is one of my favorite players of all time, I don't mean any disrespect to him comparing Miller to him. 

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50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Von has been worth it. We’d be OK with Jerry but we lucked out with Chandler Jones not taking our money. See if you can find him.

 

 

Groot getting double teamed almost as much as Von.

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34 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Groot getting double teamed almost as much as Von.

 

Von was being very serious when he said he believes Rousseau will become the best pass rusher in the NFL over the next few years...hard to believe with Parsons wrecking things in Dallas and Watt in Pittsburgh, but he seems pretty confident in that.

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