JerseyBills Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Motor’s YPC is terrible Really.? Didn't know 4.7 ypc on 518 carries was considered terrible 🤣 🤡 Barkley averages 4.6 on 712 carries🤡 Edited September 28, 2022 by JerseyBills Quote
The Wiz Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Boomer is a lefty. I no longer like or trust left handed QBs I just in general don't like or trust left handed people. AND I'M ONE OF THEM! Quote
FireChans Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Really.? Didn't know 4.7 ypc on 518 carries was considered terrible 🤣 🤡 Barkley averages 4.6 on 712 carries🤡 His numbers this year are bad. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkSa00.htm Barkley is averaging 6 YPC compared to Single's 3.5 Edited September 28, 2022 by FireChans Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Einstein said: If your running back can’t beat a DE on a cut back then you don’t have a running back. You have a fullback. Do you realize that you basically just said: “Jee he had to beat 1 defender. If he has a single defender near him, then he just has to fall down for 2 yards”? If he can’t beat this guy one on one then we have serious RB issues. Most players dream of one on ones like this. So your picture of a running play with a free runner coming unblocked down the line to stop him in the backfield is evidence that our rushing problems are at the rb position? Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Einstein said: I would love that. There was a play during the Miami game where Singletary could have cut outside for a HUGE gain (like 40+ yards). Instead he ran into the tackles butt. Barkley scores on that play. I saw the same play. Lol 3 hours ago, uninja said: It reeks of desperation and of making a move for the sake of making a move Or making a move to improve the position. Saquon is better than any current RB on the roster 1 Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: His numbers this year are bad. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkSa00.htm Barkley is averaging 6 YPC compared to Single's 3.5 So his career average is 4.6 and Motors is 4.7 if you want to compare the bigger picture. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So your picture of a running play with a free runner coming unblocked down the line to stop him in the backfield is evidence that our rushing problems are at the rb position? Huh? The photo is of a clear cutback lane (that several other posters saw as well), and all it would have taken is Singletary making 1 guy miss. If you can’t make 1 guy miss, then you’re not an NFL quality running back. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, uninja said: I have just never seen a team be a running back away from winning a super bowl. Premier pass rusher? That’s a completely different can of worms. The early Patriots teams with Corey Dillon Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 Just now, Einstein said: Huh? The photo is of a clear cutback lane (that several other posters saw as well), and all it would have taken is Singletary making 1 guy miss. If you can’t make 1 guy miss, then you’re not an NFL quality running back. So if I come up with one video of Barkley not making one guy miss he's no longer any good? Quote
FireChans Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So his career average is 4.6 and Motors is 4.7 if you want to compare the bigger picture. Motor is not playing well this year. I don't care if he was better 3 years ago. Edited September 28, 2022 by FireChans Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: The early Patriots teams with Corey Dillon They had Smith before Dillon and won with him. 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Motor is not playing well this year. I don't care if he was better 3 years ago. He's been better any time they've dedicated themselves to running him more than 7 or 8 times a game. Pure and simple. Hell he was our leading reciever last week or doesn't that not count for anything? Quote
FireChans Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: They had Smith before Dillon and won with him. He's been better any time they've dedicated themselves to running him more than 7 or 8 times a game. Pure and simple. Hell he was our leading reciever last week or doesn't that not count for anything? They aren't dedicated to running him for than 7-8 times per game because he has been playing bad. If you're 9 for 13 or 6 for 19, we are going to stop calling your number lol. Edited September 28, 2022 by FireChans Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Motor is SOO underrated. If we gave him as many opportunities as Barkley he'd put up close numbers. Barkley is more talented but Motor is a clear RB1 in the NFL. Great vision, rarely fumbles. He can catch and pass protect Rev that Motor Dorsey. I agree with all of this. He's missing the "home run" ability Quote
NewEra Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Einstein said: Huh? The photo is of a clear cutback lane (that several other posters saw as well), and all it would have taken is Singletary making 1 guy miss. If you can’t make 1 guy miss, then you’re not an NFL quality running back. If you’ve been watching Singletary play, then you would know making 1 guy miss is something he does very well. You’re looking at this in a vacuum where ONLY this one play matters…. Which doesn’t take an Einstein to realize that’s the stupidest rationale one could make. One play in which you highlighted = he can’t make 1 guy miss. Wake up If you can’t connect on a wide open 3 yard out route then you’re not a quality NFL QB. Edited September 28, 2022 by NewEra Quote
mannc Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Greg S said: Appearing on FanDuel's "Up & Adams," the CBS analyst and former NFL MVP said that if Giants running back Saquon Barkley keeps producing like he is, the Buffalo Bills could come calling. If Saquon Barkley continues to do what he's doing ... by the trade deadline, ... that's a serious thing that I think the Buffalo Bills would look at... Saquon is probably as good now as he'll ever be in the NFL ... why would the Giants keep him? If the Bills would love to have a top-end running back and give the Giants a second or a third-round draft pick, you'd have to consider it if you're the Giants. Wouldn’t hate it, but the trade would have to be Moss or Singletary, plus a late round pick. Edited September 28, 2022 by mannc Quote
Maine-iac Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, FireChans said: They aren't dedicated to running him for than 7-8 times per game because he has been playing bad. If you're 9 for 13 or 6 for 19, we are going to stop calling your number lol. So you want to cherry pick the last two games? His career average is higher than Barkleys so let's cherry pick Barley's 2020 season where he averaged 1.8 for the whole season. See how that works? When you cherry pick your stats you can make up just about anything. Quote
Steptide Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, FireChans said: Motor is not playing well this year. I don't care if he was better 3 years ago. He'd probably be better if they stopped giving the ball to moss Quote
JerseyBills Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, FireChans said: Motor is not playing well this year. I don't care if he was better 3 years ago. Say what? He had a TD and 95 scrimmage yards last week. Prior 2 weeks he averaged 4.5 ypc Last 6 games last year he was the 6th best fantasy back. He doesn't get rushing opportunities Quote
Einstein Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, NewEra said: If you’ve been watching Singletary play, then you would know making 1 guy miss is something he does very well. You’re looking at this in a vacuum where ONLY this one play matters…. Which doesn’t take an Einstein to realize that’s the stupidest rationale one could make. One play in which you highlighted = he can’t make 1 guy miss. Wake up If you can’t connect on a wide open 3 yard out route then you’re not a quality NFL QB. I think you missed the context of the conversation. This started as talking about a massive cutback lane he had and didn’t take. It wasn’t an attack on Singletary, but rather an example of plays he does miss at times. 46 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So if I come up with one video of Barkley not making one guy miss he's no longer any good? Of course not. And im not saying Singletary is no good either. Quote
NewEra Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, Einstein said: Huh? The photo is of a clear cutback lane (that several other posters saw as well), and all it would have taken is Singletary making 1 guy miss. If you can’t make 1 guy miss, then you’re not an NFL quality running back. 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: I think you missed the context of the conversation. This started as talking about a massive cutback lane he had and didn’t take. It wasn’t an attack on Singletary, but rather an example of plays he does miss at times. Of course not. And im not saying Singletary is no good either. If I missed the context, apologies. explain the context of the bolded Quote
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