Einstein Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, DasNootz said: Two options were forward and immediately down or make it to the sideline. He tried to do both and didn't. Not his fault, not Josh's. The battered line held taking them out of range, and then collapsed on the final play. I think it was definitely his fault. He has to know that it takes far longer to run 25 yards than 5 yards. 1 Quote
Malazan Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 The commonly accepted range for bass is F2 to E4 3 1 2 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah Mckenzie could have just ran forward for a few yards and went down. He never should have tried for the boundary. If he could make it to this red circle (dive if you have to), then that’s a 60 yard field goal. Thanks for this. Situational recognition of time and clock is you catch get up field and down. Easily would have been inside the 45 with 12-13 seconds (play started with 18 seconds) and a spike. Then either a Hail Mary or Kick. Already had a 59, 58 & 57 (to win game on the last play) yarders made this year. 1 Quote
ALLEN1QB Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: I was surprised going back and looking at play by play of Dolphins game that Bills were perhaps already in Bass' field goal range at end of game. Situation was second and ten on Miami 43 with 22 seconds left, no timeouts. Next play was holding penalty. Was 60 yards within Bass' range? How about a draw, pick up a few yards, spike, FG attempt from 55 - 56 yards. I know that every possible scenario from the game has been beat to death but I'm wondering if 38 yard miss influenced decisions near end of game. I agree 100% with no timeout much better call. Quote
The Jokeman Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: analysis paralysis....can't have a holding penalty, that did them in. Have we seen the clip of said hold? As I know it was called yet never saw it live nor on a replay. Edited September 28, 2022 by The Jokeman Quote
ILBillsfan Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: I was surprised going back and looking at play by play of Dolphins game that Bills were perhaps already in Bass' field goal range at end of game. Situation was second and ten on Miami 43 with 22 seconds left, no timeouts. Next play was holding penalty. Was 60 yards within Bass' range? How about a draw, pick up a few yards, spike, FG attempt from 55 - 56 yards. I know that every possible scenario from the game has been beat to death but I'm wondering if 38 yard miss influenced decisions near end of game. They ahd the line set at Miami 40 so that would of been a 58 yeard FG...... so that easy Draw play would not of gotten it to 56 yards....at the spot where McKenzie got to it would of been a 60 yard FG attempt The kickers do kicks in warm up and know where there range is along with the coaches 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Have we seen the clip of said hold? As I know it was called yet never saw it live nor on a replay. the holding prevented a sack .... Miami took the penalty to push them out of range of the FG there as it pushed them to the Buffalo 47 vs the Miami 43.... Quote
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah Mckenzie could have just ran forward for a few yards and went down. He never should have tried for the boundary. If he could make it to this red circle (dive if you have to), then that’s a 60 yard field goal. I think couple seconds before I think McKenzie was open before first down would easy got there. Looks broken coverage and then some would of been precious time and easier to spike the ball or oline if they gave Allen a second longer before pressure. Allen saw him late saw some replays. Edited September 28, 2022 by Buffalo Bills Fan Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 I watched him at the Senior Bowl consistently make 50-55 yd field goals half way up the goal posts…. But it seems the coaching staff is only comfortable with him around 50…. Quote
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 A year or two ago the interviewed the kicker with the current longest kick (forgot his name), and they were asking him if any kickers in the NFL could hit a 70 yarder. He said there were maybe 2 or 3 and one of them was Bass. 1 Quote
Jammer8732 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 Anything from the left hash mark. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Bass can hit 60 in warmups but that is different than game circumstances We trot him out from 55+ a few times a year Edited September 28, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
sven233 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Einstein said: Yeah Mckenzie could have just ran forward for a few yards and went down. He never should have tried for the boundary. If he could make it to this red circle (dive if you have to), then that’s a 60 yard field goal. Watching the game live, this is what I thought he was going to do. In my head, I am thinking Bass could hit from 60-65 max, so my target line was the 45. Not saying he would have made it, of course, but he has the leg to get it there. Would have been a tough kick for sure, but I would have liked to at least have the chance to try it. Getting out of bounds there was not worth the extra 5 yards. Heat of the moment with everything going on, I will never blame Dirty, though. Just an unfortunate set of circumstances. Edited September 28, 2022 by sven233 3 Quote
Motorin' Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 The bass range area lies around 60 – 250 Hz. 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 Off the top of my head ~50 is where I would trust him. Looked it up after I typed the first line, he's 6-10 on over 50. Quote
RochesterLifer Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: To me it looked like a bad kick that was tipped because it wasn't kicked clean. No one else has mentioned this, so I could be wrong. But I think his plant foot slid just a little bit, causing him to hit the ball high, while pulling it - allowing the tip. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 I’d say around the 42,43 yard line for a decent shot in good conditions Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, RochesterLifer said: No one else has mentioned this, so I could be wrong. But I think his plant foot slid just a little bit, causing him to hit the ball high, while pulling it - allowing the tip. Looked like he kicked it with the arch of his foot too - something went wrong there. Quote
Jauronimo Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 Hes a soprano but he can't quite hit he falsetto. Way better than Bojo who was a crappy Alto but we can do better in the draft next year. Quote
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