Ron DeSantis's Test of Leadership, Hurricane Ian Closes In On Tampa Bay

[Doc]

BSTime still using old and disproven memes. 

[Tiberius]

This is unbelievable. Totally shocked by the impact of this. Didn’t think it would be anywhere near this bad. 

 

So hope the government operates in a smooth efficent manner  to get to the people 8n need. 

[US Egg]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Gym sees no evil 

……so says the evil chirper.

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

BSTime still using old and disproven memes. 

 

Hey look - a coward looking out for another coward!  I bet you're looking forward to this:

 

George Clooney’s Ohio State Abuse Documentary Lands at HBO

 

And hey, look - it's another COWARD:

 

[Tenhigh]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Hey look - a coward looking out for another coward!  I bet you're looking forward to this:

 

George Clooney’s Ohio State Abuse Documentary Lands at HBO

 

And hey, look - it's another COWARD:

 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

 

Exactly - Joe looking down at the coward... just like this:

 

[US Egg]

Is someone home early from their “societal” betterment meeting to further decide punishment for Trump supporters.

 

How many opposing victims have you butt hurt tonight? How many is enough for you? Never enough be my guess.

[BillStime]

12 hours ago, Wacka said:

Sez the only backer of that pedophile haven The Lincoln Project on this board.

 

Yeah ok - at least the LP denounced the guy and forced him out unlike your pathetic hypocritical cult:

Ex-RNC staffer gets more than 12 years in prison in child porn case

 

👆Why won’t the CULT touch this?

👇Wait - what’s this in the NEWS today?

 

Why won’t the cult denounce this? Why won’t you denounce this?

 

Who voted for a POS sexual predator not once but twice - who would F his own daughter - you sick pucks:

 

 

Your obsession is creepy af and the cult’s obsession about grooming is all projection.

 

And what’s this?

 

Donald Trump endorses Roy Moore, showing us the state of the GOP

 

 

So, yeah - let’s Talk About Republicans and Sex Crimes

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Yeah ok - at least the LP denounced the guy and forced him out unlike your pathetic hypocritical cult:

Ex-RNC staffer gets more than 12 years in prison in child porn case

 

👆Why won’t the CULT touch this?

👇Wait - what’s this in the NEWS today?

 

Why won’t the cult denounce this? Why won’t you denounce this?

 

Who voted for a POS sexual predator not once but twice - who would F his own daughter - you sick pucks:

 

 

Your obsession is creepy af and the cult’s obsession about grooming is all projection.

 

And what’s this?

 

Donald Trump endorses Roy Moore, showing us the state of the GOP

 

 

So, yeah - let’s Talk About Republicans and Sex Crimes

 

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An anti-abortion activist originally from San Antonio, Verastigui spoke at the March for Life in Washington in 2013, according to a video clip posted online.

 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Yeah ok - at least the LP denounced the guy and forced him out unlike your pathetic hypocritical cult:

Ex-RNC staffer gets more than 12 years in prison in child porn case

 

👆Why won’t the CULT touch this?

👇Wait - what’s this in the NEWS today?

 

Why won’t the cult denounce this? Why won’t you denounce this?

 

Who voted for a POS sexual predator not once but twice - who would F his own daughter - you sick pucks:

 

 

Your obsession is creepy af and the cult’s obsession about grooming is all projection.

 

And what’s this?

 

Donald Trump endorses Roy Moore, showing us the state of the GOP

 

 

So, yeah - let’s Talk About Republicans and Sex Crimes

 

Well lookie what we got here.  In a thread about DeSantis and his leadership regarding the hurricane Billy Boy loads up on the Trump Trump Trump stuff. 
 

 

 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Well lookie what we got here.  In a thread about DeSantis and his leadership regarding the hurricane Billy Boy loads up on the Trump Trump Trump stuff. 
 

 

 

But you would never say jack to your buddy @Wacka for bringing up LP - right Jimmy?

 

Bunch o cowards

[Tiberius]

13 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

……so says the evil chirper.

Egg man? That's the best you could do? Was Otterman already taken? 

 

[US Egg]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Egg man? That's the best you could do? Was Otterman already taken? 

 

No, evil chirper is suffice and polite description of you.

[Chef Jim]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

But you would never say jack to your buddy @Wacka for bringing up LP - right Jimmy?

 

Bunch o cowards

Of course not you imbecile.   I’ll let you think about it for a bit. You might come up with the reason why.  

[BillStime]

45 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Of course not you imbecile.   I’ll let you think about it for a bit. You might come up with the reason why.  

Nah - it is so obvious you can’t stand being reminded what a POS Donald Trump really is… put me back on ignore champ. 

[nedboy7]

As a freshman congressman in 2013, Ron DeSantis was unambiguous: A federal bailout for the New York region after Hurricane Sandy was an irresponsible boondoggle, a symbol of the “put it on the credit card mentality” he had come to Washington to oppose.

“I sympathize with the victims,” he said. But his answer was no.

Nearly a decade later, as his state confronts the devastation and costly destruction wrought by Hurricane Ian, Mr. DeSantis is appealing to the nation’s better angels — and betting on its short memory.

“As you say, Tucker, we live in a very politicized time,” Mr. DeSantis, now Florida’s governor, told Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night, outlining his request for full federal reimbursement up front for 60 days and urging the Biden administration to do the right thing. “But you know, when people are fighting for their lives, when their whole livelihood is at stake, when they’ve lost everything — if you can’t put politics aside for that, then you’re just not going to be able to.”

The tonal whiplash for Mr. DeSantis reflects a different job and a different moment — a Tea Party-era House Republican now steering a perennially storm-battered state dependent once more on federal assistance to rebuild. Yet even in the context of his term as governor, the hurricane has required Mr. DeSantis to test another gear.

In 2013, Mr. DeSantis and Representative Ted Yoho, another hard-line conservative, were the only House members from Florida to oppose the Sandy package. For Mr. DeSantis, who represented a coastal district in eastern Florida, the vote at once established him as an eager combatant from the party’s ascendant right wing — he was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus — while at times placing him on the defensive back home.

In a local interview that year, Mr. DeSantis said the bill contained “extraneous stuff” that could not be classified as emergency spending. “I never made the point of saying we shouldn’t do anything,” he said, adding that he could have supported a leaner package focused on immediate relief. Asked then if he would vote against a relief package that affected his own district, Mr. DeSantis was noncommittal, suggesting he would support a responsible plan.

Through the years, critics in both parties have accused Mr. DeSantis of applying this standard selectively. In 2017, as he was poised to run for governor, Mr. DeSantis supported an aid package after Hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria as places like Florida, Texas and Puerto Rico strained to recover.

His 2018 primary opponent, Adam Putnam, made an issue of Mr. DeSantis’s voting record during the campaign. Storm-weary voters, a Putnam spokeswoman warned then, should protect themselves against “further destruction at the hands of Hurricane Ron.” Mr. DeSantis’s congressional office denied any inconsistency at the time, rejecting a comparison between the two disaster packages and saying he had supported emergency spending “when immediate and necessary.”

Asked about the governor’s past positions on Thursday, a DeSantis spokesman said the administration was “completely focused on hurricane response.” “As the governor said earlier,” the spokesman, Jeremy T. Redfern, said, “we have no time for politics or pettiness.”

Some Northeastern lawmakers, including Republicans, have not forgotten how Mr. DeSantis and some of his peers responded when the New York area was under duress. “Year after year, we had given them billions of dollars,” said Peter King, a former Republican congressman from Long Island, alluding to aid packages for Southern states and calling the resistance to Sandy relief his angriest moment in office. “Every one of them comes to New York to raise money. They either go to the Hamptons or they go to Manhattan. And both areas were devastated by Sandy.”

This week, Mr. DeSantis said he was “thankful” for the Biden administration’s efforts so far, moving to place himself in the tradition of above-the-fray leadership from past Florida governors who negotiated catastrophic weather events on their watch.

The president and the governor have each made a point of saying publicly that they and their teams are in touch. “He complimented me. He thanked me for the immediate response we had,” Mr. Biden said on Thursday, suggesting that any political conflicts with Mr. DeSantis were irrelevant in these times. “This is about saving people’s lives, homes and businesses.” (In February, Mr. DeSantis baselessly said Mr. Biden “stiffs” storm victims for political reasons, insisting that the president “hates Florida.”)

Haley Barbour, a Republican former governor of Mississippi who presided over the state’s response to Hurricane Katrina, said there was nothing inherently inconsistent about a conservative governor seeking federal storm money. “People think this is a role for the federal government — that some disasters are too big for the community to bear the cost to get back to where you need to be,” he said.

Besides, he suggested, Mr. DeSantis and the White House suddenly had something in common. “Biden likes to say, ‘Build back better,’” Mr. Barbour said. “Well, that’s what Florida wants to do.”

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:

As a freshman congressman in 2013, Ron DeSantis was unambiguous: A federal bailout for the New York region after Hurricane Sandy was an irresponsible boondoggle, a symbol of the “put it on the credit card mentality” he had come to Washington to oppose.

“I sympathize with the victims,” he said. But his answer was no.

Nearly a decade later, as his state confronts the devastation and costly destruction wrought by Hurricane Ian, Mr. DeSantis is appealing to the nation’s better angels — and betting on its short memory.

“As you say, Tucker, we live in a very politicized time,” Mr. DeSantis, now Florida’s governor, told Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night, outlining his request for full federal reimbursement up front for 60 days and urging the Biden administration to do the right thing. “But you know, when people are fighting for their lives, when their whole livelihood is at stake, when they’ve lost everything — if you can’t put politics aside for that, then you’re just not going to be able to.”

The tonal whiplash for Mr. DeSantis reflects a different job and a different moment — a Tea Party-era House Republican now steering a perennially storm-battered state dependent once more on federal assistance to rebuild. Yet even in the context of his term as governor, the hurricane has required Mr. DeSantis to test another gear.

In 2013, Mr. DeSantis and Representative Ted Yoho, another hard-line conservative, were the only House members from Florida to oppose the Sandy package. For Mr. DeSantis, who represented a coastal district in eastern Florida, the vote at once established him as an eager combatant from the party’s ascendant right wing — he was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus — while at times placing him on the defensive back home.

In a local interview that year, Mr. DeSantis said the bill contained “extraneous stuff” that could not be classified as emergency spending. “I never made the point of saying we shouldn’t do anything,” he said, adding that he could have supported a leaner package focused on immediate relief. Asked then if he would vote against a relief package that affected his own district, Mr. DeSantis was noncommittal, suggesting he would support a responsible plan.

Through the years, critics in both parties have accused Mr. DeSantis of applying this standard selectively. In 2017, as he was poised to run for governor, Mr. DeSantis supported an aid package after Hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria as places like Florida, Texas and Puerto Rico strained to recover.

His 2018 primary opponent, Adam Putnam, made an issue of Mr. DeSantis’s voting record during the campaign. Storm-weary voters, a Putnam spokeswoman warned then, should protect themselves against “further destruction at the hands of Hurricane Ron.” Mr. DeSantis’s congressional office denied any inconsistency at the time, rejecting a comparison between the two disaster packages and saying he had supported emergency spending “when immediate and necessary.”

Asked about the governor’s past positions on Thursday, a DeSantis spokesman said the administration was “completely focused on hurricane response.” “As the governor said earlier,” the spokesman, Jeremy T. Redfern, said, “we have no time for politics or pettiness.”

Some Northeastern lawmakers, including Republicans, have not forgotten how Mr. DeSantis and some of his peers responded when the New York area was under duress. “Year after year, we had given them billions of dollars,” said Peter King, a former Republican congressman from Long Island, alluding to aid packages for Southern states and calling the resistance to Sandy relief his angriest moment in office. “Every one of them comes to New York to raise money. They either go to the Hamptons or they go to Manhattan. And both areas were devastated by Sandy.”

This week, Mr. DeSantis said he was “thankful” for the Biden administration’s efforts so far, moving to place himself in the tradition of above-the-fray leadership from past Florida governors who negotiated catastrophic weather events on their watch.

The president and the governor have each made a point of saying publicly that they and their teams are in touch. “He complimented me. He thanked me for the immediate response we had,” Mr. Biden said on Thursday, suggesting that any political conflicts with Mr. DeSantis were irrelevant in these times. “This is about saving people’s lives, homes and businesses.” (In February, Mr. DeSantis baselessly said Mr. Biden “stiffs” storm victims for political reasons, insisting that the president “hates Florida.”)

Haley Barbour, a Republican former governor of Mississippi who presided over the state’s response to Hurricane Katrina, said there was nothing inherently inconsistent about a conservative governor seeking federal storm money. “People think this is a role for the federal government — that some disasters are too big for the community to bear the cost to get back to where you need to be,” he said.

Besides, he suggested, Mr. DeSantis and the White House suddenly had something in common. “Biden likes to say, ‘Build back better,’” Mr. Barbour said. “Well, that’s what Florida wants to do.”

You like to post stuff that you clearly did not write without attribution, why? As for the Super Storm Sandy vote- that was for over $50 billion while no other storm up to that point had ever gotten more than $20 billion in federal aid- why the huge jump? Per person effected it was more than twice as much as any other natural disaster.

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Nah - it is so obvious you can’t stand being reminded what a POS Donald Trump really is… put me back on ignore champ. 

 

If you really think that's what your posts do to me you are so ***** clueless.  You do not remind us what a POS Donald was/is.  You remind us all on a daily basis what a childish, immature, man child, psychotic, you are.  It's really really sad and there's a part of me (albeit a very small part but it's there) that feels sorry for you.  Do yourself a favor and put yourself on ignore for a few weeks. It will do you some good not to mention what it will do for the adults in the room. 

[nedboy7]

54 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

You like to post stuff that you clearly did not write without attribution, why? As for the Super Storm Sandy vote- that was for over $50 billion while no other storm up to that point had ever gotten more than $20 billion in federal aid- why the huge jump? Per person effected it was more than twice as much as any other natural disaster.

 

Here is where that 50 billion went.  Btw Katrina got 80 I believe. 

 

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20171026/rockaway-beach/where-did-hurricane-sandy-money-go-fema-hud