Miami home field sun advantage and why this is wrong on so many levels

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

They weren't all cooler. The game last year was within one degree of this year with the same humidity.

 

The difference was the bills game planned to chew clock and their offense was on the field for almost the equivalent of 3 entire quarters.  Last year they had the ball for 28 minutes.

 

The Bills blew them out last year, so nobody cared.

 

But if something is actually an unfair advantage, people should be making noise about it regardless of if they win or lose, which isn't the case.  It's only a big deal now because we lost.

 

 

 

NOPE!

[TBBills]

On 9/26/2022 at 6:08 AM, oldschoolfootball1963 said:

The NFL or players association needs to step in and do something about this. We could have had several players die or be so heat effected that it could effect those players for several games. This is a safety issue. When the dolphins play in buffalo they have the same heaters and cold weather gear and it’s on equal footing. In Miami one team gets to be in the shade the entire game while the other side bakes in the sun. I’ve never been to Hard Rock stadium. But it appears there is some sort of screen or something that keeps their side shady. This is a very unfair advantage that effects the players heath. It would be like the dolphins having to play in leather helmets Vs the Bill's with todays helmet technology. I’m not pissed that we lost. I’m mad about how the sun effected the Bills players more because one team gets the shade while the other team bakes. This needs to stop to protect player safety. 
 

I just read the entire thread. I don’t care who won the game. The winner is not important. If you took your 80 year old grandma into that stadium what side of the stadium 🏟 would you sit her on for 4 hours. We have many 300 pound men expending lots of energy. This is not right. It has nothing to do with who wins or losses. If the Bills had won I would be saying the same thing. That side of the field was unsafe for player safety. Korey Stringer died of heat stroke for the Minn Vikings. 
This was unsafe period and this effects players in different ways. We may have a few players that might not play in Baltimore because of the effects of this game. I was very worried someone might die in this game. Credit Miami for hanging in there. But look at their defense 90 plays and still doing well. Now look at the Bills offense. They look like they might die out there. If you don’t think that this is a problem then you are the problem. 

S. T. O. P.

[What a Tuel]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

NOPE!

 

It's a vicious cycle of correcting this.

 

I don't know why people think its because we lost. I guarantee this topic would have been here if we won. Same with the Tua concussion thread.

 

No one wants to see either situation when they are watching football.

 

[Royale with Cheese]

7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

It's a vicious cycle of correcting this.

 

I don't know why people think its because we lost. I guarantee this topic would have been here if we won. Same with the Tua concussion thread.

 

No one wants to see either situation when they are watching football.

 

 

For sure.  I've never seen a game where players are dropping like flies.  Diggs laying on the sideline looked like he was dead and I know the feeling.

 

I got heat exhaustion cramps about 4 years ago.  My right leg completely locked up for about 15 minutes in my hamstring and calf.  I didn't even want anyone to carry me off the mat, I just wanted to lay there because any movement from my leg was extremely painful.  There is nothing you can do when your body gets to that point.

 

We blew some opportunities for sure and should have won the game.  But the sun just made it significantly worse.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

16 hours ago, ALF said:

Have games start after sunset when the heat index is too high.

or 4PM start. 
 

it usually rains near 3 PM every day 

It was 100 deg in LA right 

 

but both teams were shaded

 

[DieHardBillsFan]

On 9/26/2022 at 6:51 AM, Stretch said:

I’m sorry, but I don't see this as cheating.  It’s smartly building an advantage.

It's the Patriot way!

[NyQuil]

It’d sure be shame if there were malfunctions with the heaters when they play in December.

[C.Biscuit97]

Eh. I went to a 90 degree game in Buffalo before. I’m sure the snow and cold is a huge advantage to us late in the season.  That’s football. I mean you could make every team have a dome for the fairest competition but where’s the fun in that? 

[Mr. WEO]

On 9/27/2022 at 9:16 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

For sure.  I've never seen a game where players are dropping like flies.  Diggs laying on the sideline looked like he was dead and I know the feeling.

 

I got heat exhaustion cramps about 4 years ago.  My right leg completely locked up for about 15 minutes in my hamstring and calf.  I didn't even want anyone to carry me off the mat, I just wanted to lay there because any movement from my leg was extremely painful.  There is nothing you can do when your body gets to that point.

 

We blew some opportunities for sure and should have won the game.  But the sun just made it significantly worse.

 

 

Did he enter the concussion protocol?

[Mr. WEO]

On 9/27/2022 at 9:16 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

For sure.  I've never seen a game where players are dropping like flies.  Diggs laying on the sideline looked like he was dead and I know the feeling.

 

I got heat exhaustion cramps about 4 years ago.  My right leg completely locked up for about 15 minutes in my hamstring and calf.  I didn't even want anyone to carry me off the mat, I just wanted to lay there because any movement from my leg was extremely painful.  There is nothing you can do when your body gets to that point.

 

We blew some opportunities for sure and should have won the game.  But the sun just made it significantly worse.

 

The Bills should only play during a total solar eclipse.   

[Beast]

We'll see how much that home field helps that defense on short rest after being on the field for 90 plays and 40 minutes 4 days prior in that heat.

 

***** Miami. 

[Buffalosouth]

This is one of those topics that gets brought up on opposing teams message boards. 

 

I agree player safety comes first. Let's make sure the new stadium has us in the sun and the opposing team in the shade during winter. Can we also get the wind to only blow and their sideline as well. No heat in the locker room either. 

 

They won, we lost, and we will smash their faces in when round 2 comes around.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The Bills should only play during a total solar eclipse.   

No they shouldn’t.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

No they shouldn’t.

 

well, I've read here over the past 2 seasons that they aren't fit for high winds (NE game in Buff), rain (Indy game) or the hot sun (Miami, only this year).   One would get the  impression, reading here, that they are only built for perfect weather.

 

The only logical conclusion is the of this team is to enjoy the ultimate success.....they will have to move to San Diego.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yea… The excuses are just that.

 

They were the better team Sunday. The problems were the same as last season in most of their losses… Poor offensive line play(yes injuries contributed). 

 

coaching and prep for the known heat risks were also lacking

[BGORDO]

OMG, not another dome thread. 

[jkeerie]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

coaching and prep for the known heat risks were also lacking

I don't know how you can prepare for 112 degree heat index.  On a short week it likely wasn't feasible to go down early to get acclimated.  When NE went down early it was the first game of the season...much more time to prepare.

From what I heard from the players and coaches, none of them was using the weather as an excuse.  They know they didn't make the plays when they needed to.

Having said all this, with the higher temperatures this planet is experiencing, playing conditions this extreme...that can adversely affect player health...should be avoided.  People die of heat exhaustion and heat stroke under lesser conditions.

[NewEra]

26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

coaching and prep for the known heat risks were also lacking

What did McDs coaching and prep for the known heat risks consist of?  

[Royale with Cheese]

42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

well, I've read here over the past 2 seasons that they aren't fit for high winds (NE game in Buff), rain (Indy game) or the hot sun (Miami, only this year).   One would get the  impression, reading here, that they are only built for perfect weather.

 

The only logical conclusion is the of this team is to enjoy the ultimate success.....they will have to move to San Diego.

Cool story.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I don't know how you can prepare for 112 degree heat index.  On a short week it likely wasn't feasible to go down early to get acclimated.  When NE went down early it was the first game of the season...much more time to prepare.

From what I heard from the players and coaches, none of them was using the weather as an excuse.  They know they didn't make the plays when they needed to.

Having said all this, with the higher temperatures this planet is experiencing, playing conditions this extreme...that can adversely affect player health...should be avoided.  People die of heat exhaustion and heat stroke under lesser conditions.

it’s not really a question of acclimation—the Miami players no doubt spend most of their week in air conditioned spaces.  It’s very doubtful they are on the field practicing hard midday every day.  It’s more about strict hydration schedules all week and particularly the days before,  as well as electrolyte replacement.  It was 102 on the field last year.  Every knows this is how it’s going to be there on turn in September 

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

What did McDs coaching and prep for the known heat risks consist of?  

excellebt question.  Nothing obvious