Robert Paulson Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, corta765 said: If they were real football players they'd play on pavement with spray painted lines touch on the street, tackle on the grass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: I thought the new synthetic grass like turfs were designed to reduce injuries but apparently this is still an issue and it seems the battle over this is getting more and more heated between the NFL and NFLPA. I had no idea this was a hot button issue. Players claiming it reduces their playing careers and causes injuries they wouldn't have gotten otherwise...many are pointing to the OBJ injury as one that wouldn't have happened on grass...they have a point...an NFL study done by it's injury and safety panel looking at data between 2002-2008 showed there was an 88% greater chance for an ACL injury and a 32% greater chance for an ankle injury on FieldTurf versus natural grass. Owners like the synthetic fields because they are easier and cheaper to maintain and allow them to host more events that make money outside of football... NFL is trying to take the middle path and work to develop new materials that have the best of both worlds but time seems to be running out with the NFLPA...would not be surprised to see this as a hot topic in the next CBA if something doesn't change... https://sports.yahoo.com/from-astro-turf-to-frankenturf-inside-the-nf-ls-behind-the-scenes-battle-to-fix-its-turf-problem-140637769.html Great post! Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said: touch on the street, tackle on the grass I remember growing up when we had enough snow it was tackle along the street curbs...a few times we barely avoided being tackled directly into a big tree... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I remember growing up when we had enough snow it was tackle along the street curbs...a few times we barely avoided being tackled directly into a big tree... Same here. Playing tackle football on a snow filled street was so much fun. Now I'm paying for it😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: That is pretty amazing! It is. If you are ever in Phoenix, try to take the stadium tour and they will show you how they bring the field into the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Yup, and it's going to be crap from Mid November forward. The shade will be a bigger problem than the cold. With Grow lights much better and cheaper, companies are popping up offering stadium grass growing solutions. Basically robot trucks with lights that move about a field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: The Cardinals stadium in Glendale (where the super bowl is this year) has a removable grass field. They can literally roll it out of the stadium and take care of it and manicure it and then bring it back in as needed. Best of both worlds https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-crew-roll-super-bowl-field-into-stadium-390953539702 Out of all the new super-stadiums that have opened up in the recent years, University at Phoenix Stadium is still an architectural gem. Think it may have been the first or one of the first NFL stadiums with the retractable roof and the ability to roll out the entire field and set down a different surface allows versatility. Seems like most new stadiums would follow something similar, they just seem to really have nailed it with that one. They've hosted the Super Bowl what, three times now since it opened in the mid 2000s? (I'm certain my numbers are off here but I'm a lazy dillhole who doesn't wanna google right now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, blacklabel said: They've hosted the Super Bowl what, three times now since it opened in the mid 2000s? (I'm certain my numbers are off here but I'm a lazy dillhole who doesn't wanna google right now). 2008, 2015, and this one coming up in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Just Jack said: 2008, 2015, and this one coming up in 2023 This guy with the google, thanks. For some reason I thought the 2008 SB was the Cards vs. Steelers but that would mean the Cards would've played the SB at home and that didn't happen until Tampa Bay a couple years ago. That was a good one, tho. I checked out the stadium on Wikipedia, it's now named State Farm Stadium, and it's nickname is "The Big Toaster" which is quite fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: With Grow lights much better and cheaper, companies are popping up offering stadium grass growing solutions. Basically robot trucks with lights that move about a field. Good. Let's do that. Plowing the field is also going to be a problem in heavy heavy snows that we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, blacklabel said: This guy with the google, thanks. For some reason I thought the 2008 SB was the Cards vs. Steelers but that would mean the Cards would've played the SB at home and that didn't happen until Tampa Bay a couple years ago. That was a good one, tho. I checked out the stadium on Wikipedia, it's now named State Farm Stadium, and it's nickname is "The Big Toaster" which is quite fitting. 2008 would have been the 2007 season. The one you're thinking of was played in 2009, after the 2008 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: I thought the new synthetic grass like turfs were designed to reduce injuries but apparently this is still an issue and it seems the battle over this is getting more and more heated between the NFL and NFLPA. I had no idea this was a hot button issue. Players claiming it reduces their playing careers and causes injuries they wouldn't have gotten otherwise...many are pointing to the OBJ injury as one that wouldn't have happened on grass...they have a point...an NFL study done by it's injury and safety panel looking at data between 2002-2008 showed there was an 88% greater chance for an ACL injury and a 32% greater chance for an ankle injury on FieldTurf versus natural grass. Owners like the synthetic fields because they are easier and cheaper to maintain and allow them to host more events that make money outside of football... NFL is trying to take the middle path and work to develop new materials that have the best of both worlds but time seems to be running out with the NFLPA...would not be surprised to see this as a hot topic in the next CBA if something doesn't change... https://sports.yahoo.com/from-astro-turf-to-frankenturf-inside-the-nf-ls-behind-the-scenes-battle-to-fix-its-turf-problem-140637769.html turf is much different now than 2002-2008. depends on the turf. Turf can be extra padded. Grass can be like Solider Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Turf is bull####. Play on grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: turf is much different now than 2002-2008. depends on the turf. Turf can be extra padded. Grass can be like Solider Field. Not according to players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, eball said: Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? I’m told we will know……..”soon”. Apparently that word is loosely defined. But how would they grow grass under the dome? EDIT: Edited September 22, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’m told we will know……..”soon”. Apparently that word is loosely defined. But how would they grow grass under the dome? It's not in a dome...they could simulate sunlight pretty easily. The same way people grow plants indoors in the winter(my Dad used to be a master Gardener) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It's not in a dome...they could simulate sunlight pretty easily. The same way people grow plants indoors in the winter(my Dad used to be a master Gardener) Did you live in a grow house? Yes, I’m aware that it will not be a dome. That’s come up a few times ‘round these parts. I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Did you live in a grow house? Yes, I’m aware that it will not be a dome. That’s come up a few times ‘round these parts. I was kidding. No, he used them for aloe vera and starting tomatoes and peppers earlier than normal so they weren't growing from seeds when he planted them outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: No, he used them for aloe vera and starting tomatoes and peppers earlier than normal so they weren't growing from seeds when he planted them outdoors. Nothing like a “real tomato”. Yum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It's not in a dome...they could simulate sunlight pretty easily. The same way people grow plants indoors in the winter(my Dad used to be a master Gardener) In Green Bay they use “sunlights” at night on the field during mostly sunless winter days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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