Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) I thought the new synthetic grass like turfs were designed to reduce injuries but apparently this is still an issue and it seems the battle over this is getting more and more heated between the NFL and NFLPA. I had no idea this was a hot button issue. Players claiming it reduces their playing careers and causes injuries they wouldn't have gotten otherwise...many are pointing to the OBJ injury as one that wouldn't have happened on grass...they have a point...an NFL study done by it's injury and safety panel looking at data between 2002-2008 showed there was an 88% greater chance for an ACL injury and a 32% greater chance for an ankle injury on FieldTurf versus natural grass. Owners like the synthetic fields because they are easier and cheaper to maintain and allow them to host more events that make money outside of football... NFL is trying to take the middle path and work to develop new materials that have the best of both worlds but time seems to be running out with the NFLPA...would not be surprised to see this as a hot topic in the next CBA if something doesn't change... https://sports.yahoo.com/from-astro-turf-to-frankenturf-inside-the-nf-ls-behind-the-scenes-battle-to-fix-its-turf-problem-140637769.html Edited September 22, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 The Cardinals stadium in Glendale (where the super bowl is this year) has a removable grass field. They can literally roll it out of the stadium and take care of it and manicure it and then bring it back in as needed. Best of both worlds https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-crew-roll-super-bowl-field-into-stadium-390953539702 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, KDIGGZ said: The Cardinals stadium in Glendale (where the super bowl is this year) has a removable grass field. They can literally roll it out of the stadium and take care of it and manicure it and then bring it back in as needed. Best of both worlds https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-crew-roll-super-bowl-field-into-stadium-390953539702 That is pretty amazing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? Thats what I heard. Whatever makes Allen feel safer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: The Cardinals stadium in Glendale (where the super bowl is this year) has a removable grass field. They can literally roll it out of the stadium and take care of it and manicure it and then bring it back in as needed. Best of both worlds https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-crew-roll-super-bowl-field-into-stadium-390953539702 Allegiant Stadium in Vegas has a synthetic turf for UNLV. They also have a roll in grass field for when the Raiders play. They simply roll the grass field over the synthetic turf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Grass doesn't do well in winter climates. For example: the Steelers have grass, by the time December comes around, it's a mud bowl. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Draconator said: Allegiant Stadium in Vegas has a synthetic turf for UNLV. They also have a roll in grass field for when the Raiders play. They simply roll the grass field over the synthetic turf. Funny that Phoenix and LV, two of the driest, if not the two driest, environments in the league will use the water to maintain a natural grass field. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, eball said: Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? I’m not sure-can you have real grass inside a dome?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 This is a really good video about Allegiant Stadium. The part about the turf starts at the 3:15 mark but many other things about this stadium make this video worth the watch. Like the torch to honor Al Davis was 3D printed, making it the largest 3D printed structure in the world. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: The Cardinals stadium in Glendale (where the super bowl is this year) has a removable grass field. They can literally roll it out of the stadium and take care of it and manicure it and then bring it back in as needed. Best of both worlds https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-crew-roll-super-bowl-field-into-stadium-390953539702 I've heard about complaints from teams that Arizona's grass actually sucks and causes injuries. Doesn't seem to be as simple as grass = good by default. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, boater said: Grass doesn't do well in winter climates. For example: the Steelers have grass, by the time December comes around, it's a mud bowl. Turf at the Browns stadium looks strong. Should hire that crew. I expect the partially closed roof will present challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 If they were real football players they'd play on pavement with spray painted lines 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, eball said: Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? Yup, and it's going to be crap from Mid November forward. Just now, Charles Romes said: Turf at the Browns stadium looks strong. Should hire that crew. I expect the partially closed roof will present challenges. The shade will be a bigger problem than the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, eball said: Bills new stadium will reportedly have real grass, correct? We will have to wait for the renderings which are due to be revealed any day now 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: I've heard about complaints from teams that Arizona's grass actually sucks and causes injuries. Doesn't seem to be as simple as grass = good by default. It's BS. It's been considered one of the best fields to play on until Andy Reid complained last week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, boater said: Grass doesn't do well in winter climates. For example: the Steelers have grass, by the time December comes around, it's a mud bowl. The article I recall reading suggested the Bills stadium will have a heating element under the field that will counteract the negative implications of cold weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, eball said: The article I recall reading suggested the Bills stadium will have a heating element under the field that will counteract the negative implications of cold weather. Yeah, that is one way to ensure constant temperature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, eball said: The article I recall reading suggested the Bills stadium will have a heating element under the field that will counteract the negative implications of cold weather. In undergrad my school put a heating element under real soil+grass for the soccer team to help melt snow. Worked really well and I think it's pretty common these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Thats what I heard. Whatever makes Allen feel safer. Yah and big ruts and loose turf can be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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