djp14150 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34631088/cleveland-browns-rb-nick-chubb-admits-scoring-late-td-vs-new-york-jets-cost-us-game Chubb admits fault…it’s the coaches fault. for a referescher. Browns at 12 first and 10 after the 2 min warning. The jets were out of time outs. you should do just 3 kneel downs and win instead browns give the ball to Chubb and he scores a TD. Miss XP Jets get KO and on 2nd play get a 64 yd blown coverage TD onside kick recovery score another TD XP wins game. briwns had some time with time outs to get into FG or Hail Mary range. QB throws a pick. 2 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 I don't know I did see the end of the Broncos Seahawks game. 2 1 Quote
K-9 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, djp14150 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34631088/cleveland-browns-rb-nick-chubb-admits-scoring-late-td-vs-new-york-jets-cost-us-game Chubb admits fault…it’s the coaches fault. for a referescher. Browns at 12 first and 10 after the 2 min warning. The jets were out of time outs. you should do just 3 kneel downs and win instead browns give the ball to Chubb and he scores a TD. Miss XP Jets get KO and on 2nd play get a 64 yd blown coverage TD onside kick recovery score another TD XP wins game. briwns had some time with time outs to get into FG or Hail Mary range. QB throws a pick. There is simply no excuse for that and I put the blame on the coaches who should have reminded everyone of the game situation and demanded three kneel downs. 3 2 Quote
CA OC Bills Fan Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: There is simply no excuse for that and I put the blame on the coaches who should have reminded everyone of the game situation and demanded three kneel downs. Agree. Although a smart player may realize on his own and not score, that's not what they do anymore than knocking the ball down on a Hail Mary on the last play of a game instead of trying to catch it and risking a deflection. It's not in most player's thought process to not score and the coaches must coach it into them and tell them the situation. 1 Quote
Coastie Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 I will say the line to make was the two. If he is busting it to get that first, he probably can't stop at the one. Quote
Gugny Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, djp14150 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34631088/cleveland-browns-rb-nick-chubb-admits-scoring-late-td-vs-new-york-jets-cost-us-game Chubb admits fault…it’s the coaches fault. for a referescher. Browns at 12 first and 10 after the 2 min warning. The jets were out of time outs. you should do just 3 kneel downs and win instead browns give the ball to Chubb and he scores a TD. Miss XP Jets get KO and on 2nd play get a 64 yd blown coverage TD onside kick recovery score another TD XP wins game. briwns had some time with time outs to get into FG or Hail Mary range. QB throws a pick. 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: There is simply no excuse for that and I put the blame on the coaches who should have reminded everyone of the game situation and demanded three kneel downs. I agree that the coaches are ultimately to blame for Chubb not going down before getting into the end zone. But, Christ. The defense let the Jets ... the JETS ... come back with less than two minutes on the clock. That is absolutely inexcusable. 3 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: He has himself in fantasy. Or money on the game. 😁 Quote
The Wiz Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 and that play could be a finalist in the Trojan-Enz ***** of the Week Award 3 Quote
K-9 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said: Agree. Although a smart player may realize on his own and not score, that's not what they do anymore than knocking the ball down on a Hail Mary on the last play of a game instead of trying to catch it and risking a deflection. It's not in most player's thought process to not score and the coaches must coach it into them and tell them the situation. Sure, better awareness by Chubb would have been great, but he was adhering to a life long body of instinct as a running back; every fiber in his core says to get the ball over the goal line and score. Coaches simply have to take command in that situation to prevent that from happening. 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: I agree that the coaches are ultimately to blame for Chubb not going down before getting into the end zone. But, Christ. The defense let the Jets ... the JETS ... come back with less than two minutes on the clock. That is absolutely inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable indeed. Right on the heels of the initial inexcusable gaffe of not taking a knee to end the game. Browns deserved what happened to them. 2 3 Quote
JoshAllin Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 The score was 30-17 when he scored with 1:58 left in the game. It'd possibly be a boneheaded play vs KC but not the Jets Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 If Chubb was never told to stay out of end zone then it completely on coaching staff. If he was told not to score and did it is completely on him. No player should not score unless told to by coach Quote
ticketssince61 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 At that point, what was the Jets' computer generated probability of winning! Another potential nominee could have been the Cardinals' player in OT that almost dropped the ball before crossing the goal line Quote
wjag Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 I had no idea they lost in that fashion. That is 100000% on the OC not to put them in the victory formation. gawd... Quote
QCity Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: Sure, better awareness by Chubb would have been great, but he was adhering to a life long body of instinct as a running back; every fiber in his core says to get the ball over the goal line and score. Coaches simply have to take command in that situation to prevent that from happening. This 100% Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 I totally disagree. He is going into score with about a minute left to make it a 14-point game. That wins the game. I don’t think it is fair to blame Chubb for the kicker missing a PAT, the defense folding on a long TD, the jets recovering an onsides kick, and the defense collapsing again. When Chubb scored, the Browns had a 99% win probability. 6 1 Quote
Gugny Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 This is almost as bad as not telling your kicker to squib it. 2 Quote
djp14150 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Posted September 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said: At that point, what was the Jets' computer generated probability of winning! Another potential nominee could have been the Cardinals' player in OT that almost dropped the ball before crossing the goal line Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I totally disagree. He is going into score with about a minute left to make it a 14-point game. That wins the game. I don’t think it is fair to blame Chubb for the kicker missing a PAT, the defense folding on a long TD, the jets recovering an onsides kick, and the defense collapsing again. When Chubb scored, the Browns had a 99% win probability. I put the blame squarely on the coaches but Chubb can still realize that 100% is more than 99%. Quote
djp14150 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I totally disagree. He is going into score with about a minute left to make it a 14-point game. That wins the game. I don’t think it is fair to blame Chubb for the kicker missing a PAT, the defense folding on a long TD, the jets recovering an onsides kick, and the defense collapsing again. When Chubb scored, the Browns had a 99% win probability. then the jets might have gone for 2 on one of the TDs. down 14 it’s a better decision to go for 2 generally.. 1 Quote
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