The short yardage conundrum

[JESSEFEFFER]

19 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

 

Looking at the Jaguar game, the Bills had a 1st and goal from the 3 that eventually became a field goal, a third and 3 that ended up as an interception and a third and 2 which led to -1 yard run and fumble by Allen.   So not quite 1 yard to go but still pretty short yardage.

 

Against the Steelers, they had a failed 3rd and 1 flea-flicker, a 3rd and 3 incompletion, a 3rd and 3 run for two yards which led to a failed 4th and 1.

 

There were times last year that I felt more confident they would convert on a 3rd and 7 than a 3rd and 2 (even though I am sure the statistics will probably say that is not true.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good points.  That 4th and 1 play was that funky pitch play that Cam Sutton blew up.  

[Einstein]

UPDATE

 

short yardage is still a huge problem 

 

Can’t get into the endzone on numerous attempts from the 1 yard line

[Thrivefourfive]

The Chiefs do that Kelce thing. The Bills could do a Knox thing. You have show different looks to get the defense to play honest. Bills don’t do that AT ALL.

[Einstein]

6 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

The Chiefs do that Kelce thing. The Bills could do a Knox thing. You have show different looks to get the defense to play honest. Bills don’t do that AT ALL.

 

We need more than a trick.

We need to be able to blow their d-line off the ball when it matters most.

 

Why can’t we ever QB sneak??

[BigDingus]

Conversely, the defense can't stop anyone on 3rd & long...

 

The 2 spots that are supposed to be the easiest to convert, the Bills struggle with. On offense, can't gain 1 yard when we need to. On defense, 3rd & 20 is an automatic layup for opposing offenses for some bizarre reason.

 

Truly a weird dynamic this team has...😅

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Conversely, the defense can't stop anyone on 3rd & long...

 

The 2 spots that are supposed to be the easiest to convert, the Bills struggle with. On offense, can't gain 1 yard when we need to. On defense, 3rd & 20 is an automatic layup for opposing offenses for some bizarre reason.

 

Truly a weird dynamic this team has...😅

 

Yes.

[Billy Claude]

32 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

We need more than a trick.

We need to be able to blow their d-line off the ball when it matters most.

 

Why can’t we ever QB sneak??

 

They seem to be scared of calling QB sneaks since last year's Titans game.  Weird, since I think Allen was something like 29 out of 30 before that.

 

I personally was hoping for three QB sneaks in a row, if necessary, at the end of the game.

 

 

 

 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:

 

They seem to be scared of calling QB sneaks since last year's Titans game.  Weird, since I think Allen was something like 29 out of 30 before that.

 

I personally was hoping for three QB sneaks in a row, if necessary, at the end of the game.

 

Yes, i’ve noticed that too and wrote a bit about it in my McDermott thread.

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

We need more than a trick.

We need to be able to blow their d-line off the ball when it matters most.

 

Why can’t we ever QB sneak??

Sneak wasn't an option, as Van Roten apparently forgot how to snap

[Einstein]

5 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Sneak wasn't an option, as Van Roten apparently forgot how to snap

 

For the last year and a half? haha

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

For the last year and a half? haha

snaps in sneak situations with Allen never seem to be smooth.

[Einstein]

Our short yardage issues continue.

 

Wonder if the people early on in this thread, who mocked me for being concerned about this when we were scoring a lot, still feel that way.

 

 

On 9/20/2022 at 2:18 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

72 to 17 

and you are worried??

 

 

😳 😬 

 

Yes. And you should be too.

 

Because even during blowouts, you can see problems forming. And those problems follow you from week to week. Just like this short yardage issue has.

[ngbills]

Wow. This team looks awful. 

No spacing. Every route there are multiple bills in same area and no separation. 

[ndirish1978]

Play calling has been very poor and execution has been worse. 

[Einstein]

22 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Wow. This team looks awful. 

No spacing. Every route there are multiple bills in same area and no separation. 

 

This isn’t the game thread.

 

This is a thread about short yardage issues.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

This isn’t the game thread.

 

This is a thread about short yardage issues.

And yet here you are. 
 

 

[Maine-iac]

If we don't run the ball when we are not in 3rd and 1 why would we all of a sudden be great at running when we get in short yardage.  We are just a throw all the time team and that makes us predictable on all downs and out of rhythm in short yardage when we actually want to be able to get a yard.

[Hebert19]

Qb run.  That's how we did it last 2 years.  Dorsey had been listening to media too much about running josh. 

[Einstein]

Just now, Hebert19 said:

Qb run.  That's how we did it last 2 years.  Dorsey had been listening to media too much about running josh. 

 

I remember hearing that Allen was something like 95% on QB sneaks before we stopped running them.

[Hebert19]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

I remember hearing that Allen was something like 95% on QB sneaks before we stopped running them.

Yes.  And QB sweep was better than that.  0 run so far this year.