BringBackFergy Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, K-9 said: I know you’re joking and your point about Edmunds in run D is more than fair, but he is greatly missed in pass defense. As I said in another thread, since he left the Vikings game, the middle of the field has been open a ton. He influences passes to that area of the field, period. Fair point. Thx Quote
RiotAct Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: This was easily Edmunds’ best game of the year. Run defense - stout. Some long passes - sure. We had a strong game. Well done, Truman. He was mistake-free this afternoon, that’s for sure! 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Posted November 21, 2022 What is all this foolishnes? Our D has been substantially worse the last 6 quarters with Edmunds out. In fact I said multiple times today that I don’t want to hear how our defense is better without him. It’s been categorically proven it’s worse when he has been out. The posts in this thread tonight mocking Edmunds is literally the stupidest narrative I’ve seen on this board all year. Congrats on achieving an all time worse analysis. 4 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: This was easily Edmunds’ best game of the year. Run defense - stout. Some long passes - sure. We had a strong game. Well done, Truman. You either don’t understand football, didn’t watch the last 6 quarters of play, or he slept with your wife. That’s the only three options possible for such a completely ridiculous narrative you’ve tried to take here. 1 1 1 2 Quote
BringBackFergy Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What is all this foolishnes? Our D has been substantially worse the last 6 quarters with Edmunds out. In fact I said multiple times today that I don’t want to hear how our defense is better without him. It’s been categorically proven it’s worse when he has been out. The posts in this thread tonight mocking Edmunds is literally the stupidest narrative I’ve seen on this board all year. Congrats on achieving an all time worse analysis. You either don’t understand football, didn’t watch the last 6 quarters of play, or he slept with your wife. That’s the only three options possible for such a completely ridiculous narrative you’ve tried to take here. Have another scotch (or whatever you’re drinking). You should change your name to “Keyboard Coach”. Maybe PFF can support your argument. Quote
Motor26 Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, SCBills said: I think we’re finding out that our backups look good when playing a game here and there with most of the other starters out there. Not so much when we have to rely on a handful of them for extended periods of time. And that’s ok .. a testament to the staff in having depth, but we’re at a point where cracks will show. Gotta get some guys back and/or have the offense get their act together to buy the defense some time. I mean these guys are backups for a reason. They can be OK in spot duty but need to get healthy down the stretch. Quote
pigpen65 Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Dodson looked like Jaquan Johnson out there today. A noticeable downgrade from the starter. Led the team in tackles and not a single running play where he was pushed 10 yards off the line of scrimmage and backpedaling when the ball carrier was tackled by the safety 2 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 The fact that Edmunds being a good player or not is still a debate really just shows how so many people refuse to change their mind or admit they were wrong 6 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: Led the team in tackles and not a single running play where he was pushed 10 yards off the line of scrimmage and backpedaling when the ball carrier was tackled by the safety I’m sure you had that same energy when All-Pro MLB Eric Kendricks got destroyed by a below average LG last week. 2 1 Quote
pigpen65 Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, gobills404 said: The fact that Edmunds being a good player or not is still a debate really just shows how so many people refuse to change their mind or admit they were wrong I’m sure you had that same energy when All-Pro MLB Eric Kendricks got destroyed by a below average LG last week. https://www.nfl.com/players/nick-chubb/stats/ Quote
BringBackFergy Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: https://www.nfl.com/players/nick-chubb/stats/ Dude!!! Stats don’t matter. Truman does his job!!! (Which basically amounts to letting guards push him downfield while Milano and Poyer clean up the mess) Quote
NewEra Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Dodson looked like Jaquan Johnson out there today. A noticeable downgrade from the starter. He was in the first half. His play was better in the 2nd half. Not starter material by any stretch, but he wasn’t Johnson/Lewis bad. Quote
DaggersEOD Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Because Edmunds would've held in check all those big plays the DBs gave up in the second half? Like I said, I don’t want to see the likes of you criticizing Edmunds when he gives up plays. No wishy washiness allowed. I think what I’m learning is that having him in the middle allows our average/backup secondary cheat a bit on the edges, making them more effective overall as a unit. It’s taken me a bit to get here as I’ve been pretty hard on TE during his time in BUF but I can see a marked difference when he’s not on the field. Edited November 21, 2022 by DaggersEOD 1 Quote
Hebert19 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Can we talk about how horseshit this defense is against pass when Edmunds is out. All of a sudden the middle of the field is wide open. He does so much we don't see because the QB doesn't throw where he is. 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Can we talk about how horseshit this defense is against pass when Edmunds is out. All of a sudden the middle of the field is wide open. He does so much we don't see because the QB doesn't throw where he is. You can definitely argue this. At the same time…shout out to AJ Klien who stepped in off the street to make a handful of really nice stops today. Dodson looking again like JAG and Edmunds importance to this defense continues to become more apparent as these Lions WRs appeared to be running unchecked throughout the middle of the defense all day 2 1 Quote
Brand J Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Prediction: if Edmunds comes back - and we’ve still got injuries on the DL - the defense will continue to have a ton of issues and many here will go right back to blaming Edmunds for his slow reaction times. 1 Quote
Hebert19 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: You can definitely argue this. At the same time…shout out to AJ Klien who stepped in off the street to make a handful of really nice stops today. Dodson looking again like JAG and Edmunds importance to this defense continues to become more apparent as these Lions WRs appeared to be running unchecked throughout the middle of the defense all day You don't throw 15 yard passes over middle if he's on the field. We just don't notice it until the 15 yard pass over the middle is open every play. Ha 4 1 1 Quote
pigpen65 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Loving this run defense. Big huge difference lately Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: Loving this run defense. Big huge difference lately Too bad we're getting absolutely gashed on pass plays now. But apparently being good at the 2nd most important play on offense in today's NFL is more important than being good against the most important offensive play. Great logic you have there. Quote
Trock Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 2:47 PM, pigpen65 said: Loving this run defense. Big huge difference lately Klein played really well last game. Let’s continue him starting. Edmunds can backup for rest of season. 1 3 2 Quote
Rochesterfan Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 8:58 PM, Trock said: Klein played really well last game. Let’s continue him starting. Edmunds can backup for rest of season. Wow look we get Edmunds back and the defense is suddenly significantly better and the passing windows much tighter and harder to hit. Almost like Edmunds is a huge and vital piece to the defense as both a player and a leader to get the team ready. 🤦♂️ 3 Quote
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