PromoTheRobot Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I'm fine with the injury prevention. But for MVP purposes, if he played the 4th qtr he could have had 100 more yards and two more TD's. I'll settle for Super Bowl MVP. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: iirc in the 56-10 game, Brady played the whole game. Not saying it's what I want Allen to do, but it's how QB's end up with absurd stats, which is the primary prereq for that award. The Titans pulled their starters first. They waved the white flag and called the game off late 3rd Qrtr. Both teams already had multiple injuries and Vrabel was basically saying to McDermott "well played coach, now let's both try and get our guys out of her without any more injuries". McDermott did the right thing reciprocating. As for Allen's personal desire to put up absurd stats.... when the 56-10 game happened Brady had 3 Superbowls. He could have retired then and pretty much walked into the HoF. For Allen and these Bills it is about Lombardis. Suggesting he or the Bills somehow lacked ambition by pulling him at 41-7 against Titans backups is the most absurd take I have read in quite some time. 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I am not suggesting a lack of ambition. Sitting Allen was the right move IMO. It could just mean a Brady or a Rodgers beats him out for MVP, which I think a lot of Bills fans would like to see Allen achieve. Yea I am sure those MVP voters will be knocking points off for 68%, 317 yards and 4 touchdowns And so far he is: 4th in yards 3rd in ypa 2nd in completion % T-1st in touchdown passes I don't think he, or Bills fans, have anything to worry about on that score. Edited September 20, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote
TPS Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I am sure those MVP voters will be knocking points off for 68%, 317 yards and 4 touchdowns Any voter of consequence will know he did that in 3 quarters causing the Titans to put up the white flag. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Gene1973 said: I think it usually comes down to totals. Wins, comp%, Yards, TD's and INT ratio. Exactly. If Josh Allen is the QB of the 14 win Bills throwing over 35 touchdowns the MVP will naturally follow. So make sure you win games. Best way to win games? Pull your starters when up 41-7 against a team waving the white flag. Well done in finding the flaw in your own argument. Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Flaw? High totals... Including wins. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 72 to 17 2 games and the backups played the 4th QTR Be Afraid 😱 Quote
TBBills Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: iirc in the 56-10 game, Brady played the whole game. Not saying it's what I want Allen to do, but it's how QB's end up with absurd stats, which is the primary prereq for that award. Wrong... 7 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: How distressing would it be to Dolphins fans if the Allen still crushes them... It would be like every other year. Quote
Ya Digg? Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Tom Brady would not have sat out the 4th qtr. 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: If you want Allen to get the MVP... 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said: I'm fine with the injury prevention. But for MVP purposes, if he played the 4th qtr he could have had 100 more yards and two more TD's. At first I thought you were joking, but then it became apparent you just went full on troll! If you were trying to be funny you definitely missed the mark. Also, let’s say that Josh stayed in the game-why would they continue to throw the ball at that point? This isn’t college football where guys are playing podunk state late in the 4th quarter to try and pad their heisman stats Quote
aristocrat Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 I don’t think an nfl mvp has ever won the super bowl. Let’s pump the brakes on the mvp talk Quote
aristocrat Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Kurt Warner? Not in same year I should clarify Quote
aristocrat Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: No need to clarify, I thought he did do it in the same season. looks like he did it. Could have sworn I’ve heard nobody had done it. My mistake Quote
Big Turk Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 4 hours ago, newcam2012 said: It's a big jump and usually there is a learning curve. Clearly, reports throughout camp and pre season shows that's the case with Elam. Also, Benford is a great story but he's a 6th round pick for a reason. Right now, I see both as weakness in the secondary because of their inexperience and learning curve. Hopefully, they will continue to grow, learn, develop, and limit their mistakes. Maybe I'm wrong in my thinking... They allowed 191 yards passing and 107 yards passing in their first 2 games of the season. Those are absolutely ridiculous totals in the era of the passer and garbage time stats. Pretty sure they will be fine. Quote
TBBills Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Should feel worse this year, new coach, uograded roster, etc. You keep saying upgraded roster but the QB was not upgraded and the defense got worse. Quote
TBBills Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Well, it usually doesn't pan out when a sub-par QB is given shiny toys, but Tua wasn't having a game like that last season so... Tua has had a good game here and there like all average QBs do. But he didn't even have a good game, he had a good second half... Quote
Big Turk Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, TBBills said: Tua has had a good game here and there like all average QBs do. But he didn't even have a good game, he had a good second half... Really a good 4th quarter...they were trailing 35-14 going into it. 2 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) For all the Miami doomers that show up in our game day threads worried about how the dolphins schedule is easier, we have just one non nfc north non afc north division winner to go (aka games not in common with Miami) and we are going at worst 2-1 in those games. Miami has yet to play one of those games and they’ve got the chargers who looked arguably better than kc last week and SF who got a huge qb upgrade Sunday. Houston should be a relatively easy win for them Id say from this point on Miami has the more difficult schedule Edited September 20, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: They allowed 191 yards passing and 107 yards passing in their first 2 games of the season. Those are absolutely ridiculous totals in the era of the passer and garbage time stats. Pretty sure they will be fine. The stats only tell a portion of the story. The Rams oline was as porous as can be. Bills had relentless pressure on Stafford without blitzing. The Titans just plain suck in the passing game. Tanny is average at best and they probably have the worst WR core in the league. Both were recipes for the secondary to excell. I'd say thus far they really haven't been tested. Miami with Waddle and Hill should be a better test for the Bills. Quote
Big Turk Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: The stats only tell a portion of the story. The Rams oline was as porous as can be. Bills had relentless pressure on Stafford without blitzing. The Titans just plain suck in the passing game. Tanny is average at best and they probably have the worst WR core in the league. Both were recipes for the secondary to excell. I'd say thus far they really haven't been tested. Miami with Waddle and Hill should be a better test for the Bills. If this was a random two game sample I might agree with you. The Bills have been the #1 pass defense in the NFL for like 2.5 years now. The number of games they have held opponents to under 200 yards passing in that time is ridiculous...as Orlovsky said during the broadcast, the Bills make it hard to complete even 4 or 5 yard passes...there are no easy completions against them. Over the last 34 games teams AVERAGE 210 yards passing against them...that is just absurd. In 20 of the last 34 reg season games, teams did not reach 200 yards passing against us...statistically, it is more likely(58.8%) you will be held under 200 yards passing by this Bills defense than go over 200 yards...unheard of in the NFL these days. Circled all the categories they are #1 in. Edited September 20, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote
Motor26 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: If this was a random two game sample I might agree with you. The Bills have been the #1 pass defense in the NFL for like 2.5 years now. The number of games they have held opponents to under 200 yards passing in that time is ridiculous... Circled all the categories they are #1 in. And that was with an average to below average pass rush. Groot year 2 + Von is a huge upgrade over Jerry and Addison. Quote
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