Report: Steelers fear that DPOY T.J. Watt tore his pec in win over Bengals

[Doc]

36 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said:

Where did you see this? The reports I've heard said it turned out to be minor. It definitely didn't look minor though. 

ESPN morning radio show. 

[SoMAn]

Since we’re talking about Pittsburgh/Cinci…

The Chase catch for the TD that wasn’t.  CBS contributor/commentator and ex-official Gene Steratore stated that as long as it was a completed pass and the receiver’s foot was on the white line of the end zone, it should be a TD, regardless of whether or not the ball crossed the plane. Anyone want to weigh in on that statement? Not sure it’s true.

Fwiw, it shouldn’t have mattered-the ball was over the line.  Here’s proof.

I can’t believe the Bengals coach didn’t challenge. IMO, not challenging may have cost them the game. 
 

Edited September 12, 2022 by SoMAn

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

In other news from that game..........Trubisky still sucks.    

Kinda true. I like the guy - seemed like a great teammate who knew his backup role well. So I was trying to convince myself that he’d actually be good in his second go-round as a starter. 
But the highest praise I can come up with so far is “maybe a slight upgrade over the 2021 version of Big Ben.”

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

Since we’re talking about Pittsburgh/Cinci…

The Chase catch for the TD that wasn’t.  CBS contributor/commentator and ex-official Gene Steratore stated that as long as it was a completed pass and the receiver’s foot was on the white line of the end zone, it should be a TD, regardless of whether or not the ball crossed the plane. Anyone want to weigh in on that statement? Not sure it’s true.

Fwiw, it shouldn’t have mattered-the ball was over the line.  Here’s proof.

I can’t believe the Bengals coach didn’t challenge. IMO, not challenging may have cost them the game. 
 

 

It's not the foot, it's the ball that has to cross the plane.  Looks like it did.  

[Roundybout]

 

[Saxum]

6 hours ago, wjag said:

That was a great, wacky game.  And yeah, he knew it immediately. He pointed to it as he walked off the field and went straight to locker room 

 

and anyone who doesn’t appreciate Reid Ferguson should watch that game replay.  

 

Of course (the intelligent) we appreciate him.  He is longest tenured Bill.  Next someone whose opinion which is worth less than the prize in a box of cracker jack will say we should cut him and replace with UDFA to save money to give to a player who is already making a lot of money.

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Long snapping is a skill.  Just because you're a center it doesn't mean you can do it.

 

It is certainly a practicable skill and anyone with decent size and coordination on practice squad should be practicing it

Never hurts to have an additional skill to have you be elevated for a game or be active just in case.

[C.Biscuit97]

I hate injuries. Of course, maybe the Watt boys should chill with the roids though. Kidding of course (but they do seem to have their bodies break down). 

[Big Blitz]

17 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

 

We play them October 9.

 

They play Sunday night October 23 at Miami. 

 

Sounds about right for a return for the national audience.  

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

He could have hit him way worse if he wanted to...could have de-cleated him. I don't see it being dirty...I see it the other way, that he exercised restraint...he didn't aim for his knees, he didn't level him, he simply got in his way as Burrow was sprinting to try and make a tackle on one of his numerous INTs I am assuming.

 

 

Yeah that's not a great example of him being a dirty player...........but he is never the least bit concerned that he may cheap shot someone.   If it won't draw a flag there is no restraint with him.   Example:  for most players there is a difference between a peanut punch and punching someone like you are in a street fight.......there is a measured restraint...........Watt isn't afraid to punch another player full force in the junk if he misses.   I'd be good with him on my team but as an opposing player I don't wish him well and I've always felt that he and JJ were roided up on another level than the average NFL player so these type of injuries eventually happen to heavy juicers, IMO.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah that's not a great example of him being a dirty player...........but he is never the least bit concerned that he may cheap shot someone.   If it won't draw a flag there is no restraint with him.   Example:  for most players there is a difference between a peanut punch and punching someone like you are in a street fight.......there is a measured restraint...........Watt isn't afraid to punch another player full force in the junk if he misses.   I'd be good with him on my team but as an opposing player I don't wish him well and I've always felt that he and JJ were roided up on another level than the average NFL player so these type of injuries eventually happen to heavy juicers, IMO.

 

Well...one of the key issues with roids is muscle/tendon/ligament issues as the muscles get too big too fast for the tendons and ligaments to be able to withstand the extra force...tendons and ligaments take far longer to grow and build up properly to handle the force required.

 

Not saying his potential pec tear would be a perfect example of the type of injury that would be more common with that...but it's the type of injury that would be more common with that.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Big Turk

[SoMAn]

28 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's not the foot, it's the ball that has to cross the plane.  Looks like it did.  

So either I misunderstood what Steratore was saying or CBS has a contributing former official getting paid decently to comment on rules, but he doesn't actually know them that well.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, SoMAn said:

CBS contributor/commentator and ex-official Gene Steratore stated that as long as it was a completed pass and the receiver’s foot was on the white line of the end zone, it should be a TD, regardless of whether or not the ball crossed the plane.

 

It sort of came out of his mouth like that but it was kind of garbled.

I thought he was trying to say that if his right foot is on the endline with the ball in his right hand it's a TD, implying that this meant the ball had touched the plane of the goalline.

[Nextmanup]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Dude gets injured pulling off one guys helmet and then trying to behead the QB.  Tears his juiced up pec.  

 

Another Watt bro sidelined with pec injury (his bro bro is out with a bunch of torn bits as well).  Nothing to see here NFLPA and NFL!

These guys (the Watt bros.) seem fragile, and I would guess it's because they are juicing like crazy and are "puffed up" beyond their natural size and strength level.

 

They're like an F1 car that is so tweaked and hot-rodded, so close to the edge of breaking with regard to every component, that one problem comes along and BOOM....you have a failure.

 

Compare both those guys to a guy like Reggie White, who was just a natural horse and had "honest" size and strength without the need for juicing and much greater reliability as a result.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Nextmanup

[RiotAct]

43 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

We play them October 9.

 

They play Sunday night October 23 at Miami. 

 

Sounds about right for a return for the national audience.  

he’ll be back for the Bills game.

[Golden*Wheels]

33 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

So either I misunderstood what Steratore was saying or CBS has a contributing former official getting paid decently to comment on rules, but he doesn't actually know them that well.

I heard it the same way you did. In my recollection he didn't mention the plane or the ball at all. He essentially said his foot was in, so, TD. Didn't make sense to me either.

[RoyBatty is alive]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It sort of came out of his mouth like that but it was kind of garbled.

I thought he was trying to say that if his right foot is on the endline with the ball in his right hand it's a TD, implying that this meant the ball had touched the plane of the goalline.

If you dive forward for a ball and your feet  are in the endzone, its a TD regardless of where the ball was.

 

 

[Steve O]

5 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

Long Snapper is a specialist, just like kickers and punters. It's like asking a kicker to Punt, completely different mechanics.

 

They will have another long snapper signed by Sunday if theirs will be out for any given time.

Yep...There's a reason Adam Linger played for 13 seasons. Said that one snap stands out in his mind, the game winner in the comeback game. Given the conditions he knew he had to keep it low.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Steve O

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said:

I heard it the same way you did. In my recollection he didn't mention the plane or the ball at all. He essentially said his foot was in, so, TD. Didn't make sense to me either.

If your feet are in the endzone and you have control of the ball, it is a TD, 100%.  Where the ball is totally irrelevant.  How many plays are TDs as receivers ball outside of the end zone, hundreds each year.

[plenzmd1]

53 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

   Example:  for most players there is a difference between a peanut punch and punching someone like you are in a street fight......

this rule drives me nuts. I think, and stress think, it was in the Giants game and a RB was being held up, and Titans player wound up and with a full right uppercut tried to jar the ball lose. He got all arm, no ball...and the ref even came in and you could see he was warning him. To me, a punch is a punch...it is either legal or its not. Like you say, getting to take a free swipe at a guys junk with the defense of "just trying to knock the ball lose" is BS. Watt misses a lot on his "Peanut Punches" btw

[Don Otreply]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Dude gets injured pulling off one guys helmet and then trying to behead the QB.  Tears his juiced up pec.  

 

Another Watt bro sidelined with pec injury (his bro bro is out with a bunch of torn bits as well).  Nothing to see here NFLPA and NFL!

Oh, these guys are clean, they just eat a lot of protein and lift,  as I have been told several times by members here, 😂🤣😆,