Ex Bills on other rosters

[machine gun kelly]

8 minutes ago, WMDman said:

Im suprised Darryl Williams hasnt been picked up, he has gaurd/tackle flexibility and is decent at both

 

Guys, they’re not picking up so they don’t have to guarantee their salary for the year.  Watch guys like D. Williams get picked up on Tuesday or the next week or two.  Harry, Hughes, Feliciano are started and I thought Haack was Indy’s punter. 
 

This isn’t a bad thing.  This means the Bills upgraded at key positions.  That a huge positive for our Mgmt and coaching decisions.  

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, marck said:

I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful.

 

My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league

 

AJ Klein - Not on a team

Emmanuel Sanders - Retired

Cole Beasley - Not on a team

Darryl Williams - Not on a team

Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh

Star Loutilie - Retired I guess

Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota

Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston

Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders

Matt Hawke - On Colts

Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency.

 

I'm putting "disagree" not because your overall point isn't valid  - the Bills moved on from guys where their price/performance point dropped off, and some of them aren't rostered (though that might change after opening day when salary not guaranteed)

 

But because you're either not looking stuff up or you're deliberately misinforming/misleading

Google is a thing

Wrong on Phillips, Hughes, and Wallace and of course Haack is the Colt's starting punter, and Feliciano (who you don't mention) slated as starting C for the Giants

Edited September 10, 2022 by Beck Water

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, marck said:

I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful.

 

My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league

 

AJ Klein - Not on a team

Emmanuel Sanders - Retired

Cole Beasley - Not on a team

Darryl Williams - Not on a team

Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh

Star Loutilie - Retired I guess

Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota

Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston

Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders

Matt Hawke - On Colts

Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency.

 

 

At this point, if any of those guys suddenly became available to the Bills I doubt any would be brought back.  The exceptions to this might be Wallace as depth and maybe Horrible Harry for sentimental reasons and depth.  None, one Trey is healthy, would crack the starting line up with the current Bill’s roster.

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

At this point, if any of those guys suddenly became available to the Bills I doubt any would be brought back.  The exceptions to this might be Wallace as depth and maybe Horrible Harry for sentimental reasons and depth.  None, one Trey is healthy, would crack the starting line up with the current Bill’s roster.

 

I could see us making an offer to AJ Klein if (avert) we have an injury at LB

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, marck said:

I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful.

 

My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league

 

AJ Klein - Not on a team

Emmanuel Sanders - Retired

Cole Beasley - Not on a team

Darryl Williams - Not on a team

Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh

Star Loutilie - Retired I guess

Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota

Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston

Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders

Matt Hawke - On Colts

Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency.

I think you should do more research.  Who is Matt Hawke?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

16 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Yes, don't think his house sold yet.  Not too late to set up snow plowing for that long driveway.

He can shovel it by hand to keep in shape. 😁

15 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

I'd consider Williams as a PS guy. But his body isn't built for football. Same with Feliciano.

His is? 🤔

[Saxum]

54 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Von Miller just equaled the number of sacks (2) that Hughes had in 17 games last season. Jerry could get pressure, he just wasn’t bendy, fast, or strong enough to seal the deal.

 

Opposing lineman can hold Hughes but cannot get away with that without Zebras calling a penalty.

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'm putting "disagree" not because your overall point isn't valid  - the Bills moved on from guys where their price/performance point dropped off, and some of them aren't rostered (though that might change after opening day when salary not guaranteed)

 

But because you're either not looking stuff up or you're deliberately misinforming/misleading

Google is a thing

Wrong on Phillips, Hughes, and Wallace and of course Haack is the Colt's starting punter, and Feliciano (who you don't mention) slated as starting C for the Giants

 

It appears OP listed players supporting his position and changed data on some OP did.

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

Opposing lineman can hold Hughes but cannot get away with that without Zebras calling a penalty.

 

"that" = holding Von?

 

The other thing is that Von is such a beast he can't be held.  He can either shove the OL right back into the QB, or bend enough to get them off balance.

 

I loved Hughes but he just seemed as though he ran out of gas the last couple seasons.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

32 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Very bad decision by Wallace,  this one will haunt  him for years 

 

Sounds like you're assuming the Bills tried to resign him?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. 

Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. 

as much as I enjoyed his high catch % 

It really was time to move on. 
 

who signed hm BTW?

 

[Doc Brown]

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

as much as I enjoyed his high catch % 

It really was time to move on. 
 

who signed hm BTW?

 

Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills.  He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still juice left in that tank.

[Nextmanup]

55 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Not disagreeing with the overall sentiment, but just because some of those guys aren't on a team it doesn't mean they aren't as talented as guys currently on rosters. A lot of it has to do with their age, salaries, the cap, and GMs preferring guys they drafted.

 

Bingo! You point out the flaw in the OP's thinking, though poor quality is a factor in some of the cases.  Certainly not all though.

 

 

 

[RocCityRoller]

53 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Very bad decision by Wallace,  this one will haunt  him for years 

 

Sometimes these are blessings in disguise. Wallace leaving and White's injury forced Buffalo's hand to get younger at CB, which is a good thing cap and talent wise. The CBs (Jackson/ Elam/ Benford) will be seasoned and help acclimate the new S that will inevitably replace Poyer and Hyde in a season or two, with White and Johnson being the cagey higher priced vets.

 

DL definitely got younger and less expensive at DE, other than the splash signing of Von Miller. Who wouldn't rather have Miller/ Rousseau/ Basham/ Epenessa/ Lawson than Hughes/ Addison/ Rousseau/ Basham/ Epenessa?

 

Same can be said for the WR situation. Sanders disappearing after Halloween and Beasley forcing his way out made Buffalo get younger and cheaper at WR. Davis is now getting starter snaps with 2 seasons left on his rookie contract. McKenzie is getting his shot for more snaps and Shakir may be another sneaky late WR find. Crowder is a lower mid range vet insurance policy with Diggs being the higher priced vet.

 

We are going to have to get used to the Bills losing guys who were important parts of the turnaround. As long as Beane and Co keep managing the salary and having a solid blend of picks and FA, of vets and new guys in each unit, they will be aok.

 

I think Wallace knew he was always going to have a target on his back in Buffalo. I can't blame him for taking a 2 year contract with Pitt after getting 1 yr deals with Buffalo. He's a solid corner, but was replaceable. Same for most of the guys mentioned before.

Edited September 10, 2022 by RocCityRoller

[Saxum]

15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills.  He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still venom left in that tank.

 

Corrected.  He asked to be traded and Bills accommodated. 

[Dan Darragh]

56 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

I'd consider Williams as a PS guy. But his body isn't built for football. Same with Feliciano.

You should have let the guys in the front office know this a couple of years ago, we'd have won a SB by now

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

21 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills.  He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still juice left in that tank.

 I did see a tweet from him about Josh’s game Thursday. 

So, it’s not all negative 😝 

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Corrected.  He asked to be traded and Bills accommodated. 

That's great.  What we'd get for him?  

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 I did see a tweet from him about Josh’s game Thursday. 

So, it’s not all negative 😝 

He's a complicated dude.

[boyst]

40 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

He can shovel it by hand to keep in shape. 😁

His is? 🤔

Link to his only fans? I.... Uh ... Need to research 

[StHustle]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

 

A rookie that didn't dress would most likely be better than a vet that caught 82 passes in each of the past 2 seasons?

 

You can't make this ***** up.

Um yeah….it’s called recognizing potential. Remember this 2 years from now.

[NickelCity]

I'd love to bring D Williams back in and drop Van Roten or Hart.