Who decides what RB is on the field for any given play?

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

I also think when the 3rd quarter started - the Bills wanted to pass more and I think they wanted Moss in for protection reasons - although Singletary did stone a couple of guys - I think in general Moss is both a better blocker and slightly better at releasing for routes.  He is just no where near as dynamic as Singletary.

 

 

Agree.

[LeGOATski]

Singletary looked great to start the game. I think he got 2 first downs on his first 3 plays. Then he comes out for Moss, who doesn't have the same shiftiness or vision.

 

I guess they believe Moss is the better receiving back? He seems to be in on those plays. Is he though? I don't understand it.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

Singletary looked great to start the game. I think he got 2 first downs on his first 3 plays. Then he comes out for Moss, who doesn't have the same shiftiness or vision.

 

I guess they believe Moss is the better receiving back? He seems to be in on those plays. Is he though? I don't understand it.

well even tho I don't imagine Allen rushing 10x a game is going to be in the gameplan every week, let's say the distribution of passes/runs follows roughly what we saw at SoFi w an average of 60 offensive plays/game (maybe a little low but close to average overall and Bills specific too) that gives us in the realm of 35 passes and 25 rushes per game. Of those 25 I give 5-8 of them to Allen on called QB or scrambles, leaving about 18-20 rushes between the backs. Of those Singletary imo should be getting 75% so in the 12-15 attempts per game, leaving the remaining 8 or so left between Moss and Cook. I see very little reason to distribute the rushing touches any other way tbh, Singletary is clearly the superior rushing option

[Rochesterfan]

17 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Singletary looked great to start the game. I think he got 2 first downs on his first 3 plays. Then he comes out for Moss, who doesn't have the same shiftiness or vision.

 

I guess they believe Moss is the better receiving back? He seems to be in on those plays. Is he though? I don't understand it.

 

I think Moss has 2 slight advantages over Motor,

 

1) He is excellent at pass protection.  Singletary did an excellent job in this game picking up defenders, but both times he did just what was needed for just long enough and the defender ended up at Josh.

 

2) When pass blocking - Moss has an excellent feel for chips on defenders and slipping out on patterns that Devin just is not as natural.  Moss is also a more natural catcher of the ball than Devin.

 

The issue as most will agree is that Devin is by far the better back - especially with the ball in his hands.  Moss just is not the same caliber of player, but I think in terms of dual purpose - is it run or pass - Moss can give the Bills things Devin can’t - he just is not going to give you the bigger play.

 

As the season wears on - I will be interested to see where we go as Cook gets his feet under him because I think they will use some different sets to get him the ball in space and that should lessen Moss’s role to some extent.

 

 

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

When pass blocking - Moss has an excellent feel for chips on defenders and slipping out on patterns that Devin just is not as natural.  Moss is also a more natural catcher of the ball than Devin.

Singletary did this perfectly on his 2nd or 3rd play, chipped the DE so hard he fell over, and caught the pass for the 1st down.

 

I don't see the advantage and I feel like some of the reasoning people have for Moss is misguided in an attempt to try to find purpose for him.

 

I think the rotation is simply to keep them fresh, like others have stated, but it's overdone by the coaching staff.

[strive_for_five_guy]

Seems feasible.  I’m sure the RB coach discusses preferences for different packages with the other coaches, and if someone fumbles like Cook, maybe have a standard protocol to allow the player to reset and/or McDermott or Dorsey just call that shot during the game.

[RyanC883]

would be an interesting question to ask McD at a presser.  I’m sure each team is different.  

[Warriorspikes51]

I suspect we’ll see much more of Cook in the next few games

[Stads]

I rewatched the Allen stiff arm play. The way Devin took on Bobby Wagner to give Josh a lane to run was something else

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, Stads said:

I rewatched the Allen stiff arm play. The way Devin took on Bobby Wagner to give Josh a lane to run was something else

yep, I really don't see how Moss provides a significant advantage over Singletary in blocking or pass catching situations.

[Bferra13]

5 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Singletary looked great to start the game. I think he got 2 first downs on his first 3 plays. Then he comes out for Moss, who doesn't have the same shiftiness or vision.

 

I guess they believe Moss is the better receiving back? He seems to be in on those plays. Is he though? I don't understand it.

Agreed with this analysis. And it's worrisome to say the least. Even after a fumble he's still put out there as the lead horse. Some things this staff does I will just never understand, but I'm not arguing it this year yet.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Bferra13