Baldy's Breakdowns from last night's demolition

[Luka]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I just want to say that Not all of these plays were designed by Ken Dorsey

 

The bills ran the first Concept multiple times over the years with Daboll and and scored on it 

 

 

 

Not sure who this is for but I'm speaking of play calling, not design. The strategy and tempo is all being handled by Ken. There are only so many plays so I don't think modern OCs can be given credit for actual play design, everything is derivative in a 100+ year old sport. 

[JerseyBills]

That play to Davis was brilliant. 

I don't want to overreact but Dabol might have been holding this O back a bit

[WhoTom]

14 minutes ago, Wyobills89 said:

Hopefully Joe Brady is learning all the ins and outs of this offense. Probley won't be long intell he's OC lol. Dorsey will Def be snatched up by someone soon. 

 

7 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Or elevated here. 

 

I don't think McD plans to leave any time soon, and short of a total collapse, I can't see him getting fired. If Dorsey gets a HC position, it'll be somewhere else. Hopefully college or somewhere in the NFC.

[CLTbills]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

That first tweet (the run fake on 3rd and 1) was probably my favorite play call of the game, and it was perfectly executed by the offense.

 

After that play call I had the same reaction as Baldinger. I was like, ok I’m not worried about Dorsey. He’s for real.

Same here. I actually posted in the GDT.... We can put the concerns about Dorsey to bed. Beautiful play call and design, as well as execution.

[Rampage]

Did I ever miss these Baldy breakdowns!

Edited September 9, 2022 by Rampage

[Malazan]

Can someone send Baldy some professional equipment? His audio isn't great and it looks like he's watching the game on his TV and recording it with his phone. 

[Buffalo Boy]

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

Not sure who this is for but I'm speaking of play calling, not design. The strategy and tempo is all being handled by Ken. There are only so many plays so I don't think modern OCs can be given credit for actual play design, everything is derivative in a 100+ year old sport. 

Basically Most concepts have been ran because football is 100+years old

 

That doesn’t mean every coach puts every concept into their playbook tho
 

That play design was a favorite of dabolls is all I’m saying

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Malazan said:

Can someone send Baldy some professional equipment? His audio isn't great and it looks like he's watching the game on his TV and recording it with his phone. 

People say this every year, it's just a part of it at this point.

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

16 minutes ago, Malazan said:

Can someone send Baldy some professional equipment? His audio isn't great and it looks like he's watching the game on his TV and recording it with his phone. 

He does a rush job on a per-play basis, then does a more polished version later.

 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Malazan said:

Can someone send Baldy some professional equipment? His audio isn't great and it looks like he's watching the game on his TV and recording it with his phone. 

 

That is basically what he is doing - just instead of a TV - a monitor with the game film cut down and loaded to it.

 

He does it like that to turn it around and get the content out - similar to how these guys would watch film in preparation.

 

I love it.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Rochesterfan

[ArtVandalay]

3 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

 

I don't think McD plans to leave any time soon, and short of a total collapse, I can't see him getting fired. If Dorsey gets a HC position, it'll be somewhere else. Hopefully college or somewhere in the NFC.

After last year's brutal collapse in the playoffs, if he does something similar again it won't be his decision. 

 

The Bills are trying to win a Chamionship, and if someone can't execute you need to make the tough decision, that includes coaches. 

[jayg]

Great stuff!

[Beck Water]

So this is Great Stuff @JÂy RÛßeÒ, thanks for posting.

 

I just noticed something else about this play design.  It was a "fake within a fake".

 

Watch carefully at 1:10.  Morse has handed off his guy and is running towards the R sideline in parallel with Allen, just as Gabe Davis releases and turns upfield. 

The reason that Ramsey and #52 let Davis go, is that *Morse and Allen plus the timing and manner of Davis release* have persuaded them that Allen is going to run, Morse is going to block them for him and Davis is going to block downfield.  Neither Ramsey nor #52 want to handle Morse and Allen alone. 

 

So they leave Davis to the safety.  They totally bought it.

 

Here's the thing.  Daboll used to design these "fake within a fake" plays, and I can't remember one that worked.  We'd get an OLman going too far downfield before Allen threw it and it would be an "ineligible man downfield" penalty or something.  The timing on this, and the discipline of the OL to stay with the play but stay engaged in a block or stay behind the LOS, was just impeccable.

 

Or, the play design just didn't seem to make sense from the perspective of how a defender actually sees the field and reads his keys.  No one was fooled.

 

This worked.

 

In fact, in general for Dorsey's playcalling sequence, I felt that the plays just made sense together.

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

That play to Davis was brilliant. 

I don't want to overreact but Dabol might have been holding this O back a bit

 

They ran that play and scored on it multiple times while Daboll was here. Pretty sure that's one Dorsey borrowed.

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

So this is Great Stuff @JÂy RÛßeÒ, thanks for posting.

 

I just noticed something else about this play design.  It was a "fake within a fake".

 

Watch carefully at 1:10.  Morse has handed off his guy and is running towards the R sideline in parallel with Allen, just as Gabe Davis releases and turns upfield. 

The reason that Ramsey and #52 let Davis go, is that *Morse and Allen plus the timing and manner of Davis release* have persuaded them that Allen is going to run, Morse is going to block them for him and Davis is going to block downfield.  Neither Ramsey nor #52 want to handle Morse and Allen alone. 

 

So they leave Davis to the safety.  They totally bought it.

 

Here's the thing.  Daboll used to design these "fake within a fake" plays, and I can't remember one that worked.  We'd get an OLman going too far downfield before Allen threw it and it would be an "ineligible man downfield" penalty or something.  The timing on this, and the discipline of the OL to stay with the play but stay engaged in a block or stay behind the LOS, was just impeccable.

 

Or, the play design just didn't seem to make sense from the perspective of how a defender actually sees the field and reads his keys.  No one was fooled.

 

This worked.

 

In fact, in general for Dorsey's playcalling sequence, I felt that the plays just made sense together.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although I agree in principle that we had several issues - Cover 1 showed a video of this exact play being used by Daboll several times over the last couple of years and it worked with great success.  

[Freddie's Dead]

7 hours ago, gordong said:

disagree he is looking right at the ball

 

 

The Zapruder film was clearer than this pic....

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I just want to say that Not all of these plays were designed by Ken Dorsey

 

The bills ran the first Concept multiple times over the years with Daboll and and scored on it 

 

 

All good OCs use plays they have seen before, ( to include Dabol) it is in how they are implemented and the efficiency that they are carried out that will separate Dorsey from Dabol. No one ever said Dabol’s play sheets were like looking at a “perfect mind”  Dorsey on the other hand…, 

 

Go Bills!!!

Edited September 10, 2022 by Don Otreply

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

All good OCs use plays they have seen before, it is how they are implemented and the efficiency that they are carried out that will separate Dorsey from Dabol. No one ever said Dabol’s play sheets were like looking at a “perfect mind”  Dorsey on the other hand…, 

 

Go Bills!!!

I don’t put too much into one game positive or negative via a coaching standpoint

 

He will call good games and he will call bad games that is an absolute fact

 

He was unemployed and out of football before the bills hired him that’s also a fact… He wasn’t a savant without a job

 

He’s in the best possible situation with the best quarterback in the world.. And I hope he does the best

 

But Daboll absolutely played a huge part in Josh’s development over the years

 

[Don Otreply]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don’t put too much into one game positive or negative via a coaching standpoint

 

He will call good games and he will call bad games that is an absolute fact

 

He was unemployed and out of football before the bills hired him that’s also a fact… He wasn’t a savant without a job

 

He’s in the best possible situation with the best quarterback in the world.. And I hope he does the best

 

But Daboll absolutely played a huge part in Josh’s development over the years

 

Not saying Dabol didn’t help Josh a lot, I am saying that Dorsey will be smoother in play calling, Dorsey does have the benefit of a better overall offensive coaching staff, Kromer, cough cough, etc, as well Dorsey embraces the run game more so that Dabol ever did, and that will work to his benefit.