2022 MVP: Mahomes wins. Allen gets 1 vote? (42 TDs, 19 TOs, 315 YPG & 63.3%% Comp %--EOY talk 54+)

[transplantbillsfan]

Sorry just getting back into my own thread... but how in the heck do you NOT view Josh Allen as one of the NFL MVP frontrunners at this point?

 

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[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/18/2022 at 5:32 AM, Nelius said:

If the eye test plays and passing stats weren't enough - could easily hit 4600 yards and 38 td through the air  - he's on pace to put up 850 and 8 on the ground for his best rushing season ever. His ypc increased again and is now at a career high level after this game as well. He's got to be back at the front of the discussion there's nobody like him.

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Josh +2000 will be gone after tonight.  If he can finish strong he's still got an outside chance.

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[JoPoy88]

  On 12/18/2022 at 5:41 AM, DapperCam said:

Allen has too many turnovers unfortunately. We all know he completely carries the #2 offense in the league, with one of the toughest strength of schedules. But the people who vote on this just look at box scores and Hurts will have the efficiency stats as long as he doesn't have any stinker games. Hurts is asked to do a fraction of what Allen is asked to do, but that doesn't really matter.

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nah that ain’t it. He had the fumble but Allen doing his job and receivers letting him down dropping the ball was still more consequential than that. Allen and Diggs are dragging these replacement-level guys to the playoffs.

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/18/2022 at 7:22 AM, JoPoy88 said:

nah that ain’t it. He had the fumble but Allen doing his job and receivers letting him down dropping the ball was still more consequential than that. Allen and Diggs are dragging these replacement-level guys to the playoffs.

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Right now we're winning and I'm so grateful for Josh and Diggs.  But good Lord it's not sustainable in the playoffs if these other guys don't stop dropping passes.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 12/18/2022 at 7:42 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Right now we're winning and I'm so grateful for Josh and Diggs.  But good Lord it's not sustainable in the playoffs if these other guys don't stop dropping passes.

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If morse didn’t get hurt or bates was available  we would’ve absolutely torched them.  I cannot stress enough how bad Greg van roten and Bobby Hart are.  Morse went down right as Jevon holland was returning which led to a rough quarter…what a gutsy win 

  On 12/18/2022 at 7:06 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Josh +2000 will be gone after tonight.  If he can finish strong he's still got an outside chance.

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He should absolutely nuke the bears assuming we get an offensive lineman or two back.  He’s undoubtedly the mvp if you properly account for the situation the players are in imo.  The chiefs and eagles have great offensive lines

[thenorthremembers]

100% agree with what Mike Rob said after the game.   Take Josh Allen off the Bills and they aren't winning games.  Take Jalen Hurts off the Eagles and they are probably still good.

 

He didn't say it but I will.  Mahomes is likely the best QB in football but Andy Reid's offense was very good before Mahomes.  Meanwhile Allen is earning guys like Daboll and perhaps Dorsey job opportunities.

[JoPoy88]

If the Bills hold serve and ride this out and get the 1 seed Allen is the MVP. 

[GoBills808]

  On 12/18/2022 at 6:03 PM, NUT said:

Possibly, if the other QB's in the race have a lot of turnovers in the next few weeks.

 

16 TO's is not very MVP-like.

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Other QBs aren't their teams' entire offense

[The Wiz]

  On 12/18/2022 at 6:06 PM, GoBills808 said:

Other QBs aren't their teams' entire offense

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Right, but that's not how MVP voters usually cast their vote.  It comes down to stats for a lot of them.

[DapperCam]

Don't look now, but Hurts has 2 picks today already

[transplantbillsfan]

  On 12/18/2022 at 7:39 PM, Gene1973 said:

He'll still finish the season with single digit INT's.

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Please tell us the lottery numbers, soothsayer.

[UKBillFan]

Peter King on Sky Sports coverage speaking about the MVP, as he has a vote, said that he can easily make a case for Mahomes, Hurts and Josh. Mind you, he did also mention Cousins after yesterday!

[transplantbillsfan]

 

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I love Allen, this franchise is so lucky to have him.

[Big Turk]

Allen has tied Marino's record.

 

The next TD Allen has will break the record.

[JerseyBills]

Idc about anything but a SB but its be awesome for him to get his first of many MVPs and after a bad performance by Mahomes again and Hurts , his odds skyrocketed after a great gm. 

 

I was so close to putting 65 to win 1000 on him winning MVP prior to Saturday too

[QCity]

Jalen Hurts -150
Patrick Mahomes +155
Josh Allen +1000
Joe Burrow +1000
Justin Jefferson +10000
Tua Tagovailoa +12000
Tyreek Hill +18000
Justin Herbert +20000
Kirk Cousins +22000
Dak Prescott +23000

 

There's 4 players left in contention. Allen still a longshot. It will take multiple bad games by both Hurts and Mahomes for him to have a shot.

[transplantbillsfan]

  On 12/19/2022 at 7:24 AM, QCity said:

Jalen Hurts -150
Patrick Mahomes +155
Josh Allen +1000
Joe Burrow +1000
Justin Jefferson +10000
Tua Tagovailoa +12000
Tyreek Hill +18000
Justin Herbert +20000
Kirk Cousins +22000
Dak Prescott +23000

 

There's 4 players left in contention. Allen still a longshot. It will take multiple bad games by both Hurts and Mahomes for him to have a shot.

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Nah. Not necessarily bad games. Average would do if Allen replicated his performance last night 3 more times.

 

If Allen plays lights out to end the year, he should win the MVP regardless of how Mahomes and Hurts play, even though I understand that's not realistic.