Gunsgoodtime Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Buffalo has 4 games left. Miami Patriots Bears Bengals 2 of those teams Allen played already. In those 2 games, Allen completed almost 69% of his passes, averaged 345 YPG, and had 4 TDs and 1 TO. Plus... we play the Bears. Not over We lost 1 of those too. Got to come up big Quote
ToGoGo Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 A few weeks ago the consensus was that it was over for Allen because Mahomes had it locked up. This board is the epitome of recency bias. Quote
DapperCam Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I havenot saw him in any conversations even with the top 3 in the AFC. At some point this thread is just poisonous and dream land. Get tired of the AFCE player of the year. I want to see them win a super bowl. Sorry for being honest, but I believe most Bills fans feel this way. If he keeps the #1 seed in the AFC and finishes strong he’ll be right there. Hurts will still probably get it because voters love the TD/turnover efficiency story over volume stats and Hurts will have that. Hurts could also have a few sloppy games with a couple turnovers which would make it closer, you just never know. Patty Mahomes threw 3 picks today, nobody would have predicted that. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: Hurts will win MVP because of his cupcake schedule and system which doesn’t ask too much of him. Eagles will get bounced in the Divisional though. Agreed Hurts will get MVP. But that team is going to the Super Bowl. Especially in the NFC. Maybe the 9ers have a shot, but that will be tough with Purdy. 1 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: If he keeps the #1 seed in the AFC and finishes strong he’ll be right there. Hurts will still probably get it because voters love the TD/turnover efficiency story over volume stats and Hurts will have that. Hurts could also have a few sloppy games with a couple turnovers which would make it closer, you just never know. Patty Mahomes threw 3 picks today, nobody would have predicted that. Nope the prediction i saw was before patty homes, but was top 3 spots elsewhere. I dont care at this point, dont want to see it no more. Let's go on the SB run. 1 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Agreed Hurts will get MVP. But that team is going to the Super Bowl. Especially in the NFC. Maybe the 9ers have a shot, but that will be tough with Purdy. Honestly I'm more worried about the NfC more than ever. If you watch their games they are fantastic. Let's get through the AFC 1st Quote
dhgold Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 NFL MVP voters tend to go for the most prominent player on the team with best record. As far as who has been the most valuable player so far this season I think it's either Allen or Mahomes, who have both carried their teams, but the mindless voters would probably go for Hurts at this point in the season. From what I've seen of Philly, their offensive line is the team MVP. Quote
Big Turk Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 My my...Mahomes tossing 3 INTs today now tied with Allen with 11 for the year. Where is the outrage for that from the NFL pundits? 3 hours ago, dhgold said: NFL MVP voters tend to go for the most prominent player on the team with best record. As far as who has been the most valuable player so far this season I think it's either Allen or Mahomes, who have both carried their teams, but the mindless voters would probably go for Hurts at this point in the season. From what I've seen of Philly, their offensive line is the team MVP. Their joke of a schedule is the real MVP 1 Quote
Nelius Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Hurts is running away with it but even from a stat nerd perspective Josh is a tier 1 anomaly. Very good chance of clearing 4500-30 again through the air which is pretty bonkers unreal territory as a Bills fan but I guess we're getting used to it because it will be his 3rd year in a row. Where it really gets fun is when you incorporate his rushing stats which some still seem to overlook or even belittle for whatever reason. He's on pace for 800+/7 td on the ground which just makes him a mutant. And again he's done this before. He's got to be knocking on the door of all kinds of QB rushing records right now. Edited December 12, 2022 by Nelius Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted December 12, 2022 Author Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I havenot saw him in any conversations even with the top 3 in the AFC. At some point this thread is just poisonous and dream land. Get tired of the AFCE player of the year. I want to see them win a super bowl. Sorry for being honest, but I believe most Bills fans feel this way. Who doesn't want to see the Bills win the Super Bowl? There are a few not-so-smart folks who think Super Bowl MVP (or Super Bowl winner, for that matter) & NFL MVP are mutually exclusive accolades. Don't listen to these not-so-smart folks. They're misinformed. And.... duuuuuhhhhh!!!! Obviously we would all take the Super Bowl over anything else! But there's nothing wrong with being happy about or rooting for both. Quote
The Wiz Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Big Turk said: My my...Mahomes tossing 3 INTs today now tied with Allen with 11 for the year. Where is the outrage for that from the NFL pundits? Their joke of a schedule is the real MVP 2 2 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted December 12, 2022 Author Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: We lost 1 of those too. Got to come up big Yep. Lost to the heat in that game... and Allen put up 450 yards of offense all by himself Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted December 12, 2022 Author Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, ToGoGo said: A few weeks ago the consensus was that it was over for Allen because Mahomes had it locked up. This board is the epitome of recency bias. And then suddenly Mahomes has as many Interceptions as Allen and the Bills are the number 1 seed 1 Quote
prissythecat Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-mvp-odds/ Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow are the top 3 favorites for MVP currently as per oddsmakers . Allen is way out of the picture 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-mvp-odds/ Mahomes, Hurts, Burrow are the top 3 favorites for MVP currently as per oddsmakers . Allen is way out of the picture Joe Burrow vs. Allen will simply come down to the MNF match up. Both have good stats. Allen leads him in total yards by about 300, and they are tied in total TD's. As of this morning, per Bovada, Hurts is the leader at -110 then Mahomes +140, and Burrow +700. That MNF game will go a long way for either Burrow or Allen. But at this point it is likely too little too late for either to catch Hurts. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Allen is 4 TDs from tying Dan Marino for most touchdowns by a qb through the first five seasons. MVP is also a product of the talent around the player. The Bills have 1 receiver those other guys have much more then that. 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Allen is 4 TDs from tying Dan Marino for most touchdowns by a qb through the first five seasons. MVP is also a product of the talent around the player. The Bills have 1 receiver those other guys have much more then that. Which is all true, however the MVP voters don't see that when they go to the QB stats page on their favorite website. Quote
Danger Mouse Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Happy for him not to win it this year. Keep something on his to-do list for later seasons Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Which is all true, however the MVP voters don't see that when they go to the QB stats page on their favorite website. I doubt Allen cares having to put an S on his chest and carry this franchise for the last 4 years must be exhausting enough. Quote
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