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5 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Von and, I think 1 DT, both dropped in coverage on the Milano A-gap blitz (so 3 man rush), which is why they might have not called that a blitz.  

 

Thank you; it's good to know I'm not totally out to lunch. :beer:

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Posted
1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

They hit Stafford 22 times last night without blitzing a single time*.

 

*(I did think I saw Milano up the A gap once in the first half but the All 22 folks claimed there were zero blitzes so I'll go with that)

By the time he got to the gap Von already had Stafford on the ground so they didn't count it. 

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In the spirit of objective diligence, and not to hijack a thread, blame for this LA 4th down conversion seems to start with a certain maligned MLB, given Poyer's very explicit pre-snap alert that falls on deaf ears (or feet)...

 

(At the last moment, Poyer recognizes the pre-snap look and tries to alert Edmunds to the imminent WR screen to his left, but the MLB does NOT shift left or even take his first step(s) in that direction, thereby causing him to be just a step too late to make the play. It seems clear to me, but I'm sure many will disagree. And that's...okay.)

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Posted (edited)
53 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

In the spirit of objective diligence, and not to hijack a thread, blame for this LA 4th down conversion seems to start with a certain maligned MLB, given Poyer's very explicit pre-snap alert that falls on deaf ears (or feet)...

 

(At the last moment, Poyer recognizes the pre-snap look and tries to alert Edmunds to the imminent WR screen to his left, but the MLB does NOT shift left or even take his first step(s) in that direction, thereby causing him to be just a step too late to make the play. It seems clear to me, but I'm sure many will disagree. And that's...okay.)

It had to be an Edmunds thread at some point.  At least you took the time and did the research to back it up. 

 

Though you could have copied that video at the time stamp you are talking about instead of the full thing. 

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2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

In the spirit of objective diligence, and not to hijack a thread, blame for this LA 4th down conversion seems to start with a certain maligned MLB, given Poyer's very explicit pre-snap alert that falls on deaf ears (or feet)...

 

(At the last moment, Poyer recognizes the pre-snap look and tries to alert Edmunds to the imminent WR screen to his left, but the MLB does NOT shift left or even take his first step(s) in that direction, thereby causing him to be just a step too late to make the play. It seems clear to me, but I'm sure many will disagree. And that's...okay.)

Why just Edmunds? Go ahead and point out all the bad plays by every other player while you're at it.

 

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I've got to say I'm enjoying the Rams fans and their insistence that the Bills are the best team in the league and maybe in the last 200 years of the NFL..

 

..meanwhile, the other AFC East fans, Titans fans, other AFC teams: "Rams suck and the Bills struggled with turnovers against a bad team!"

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Posted
1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Why just Edmunds? Go ahead and point out all the bad plays by every other player while you're at it.

 

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Be fair, we have a running thread on Josh, um, running and an in-depth discussion on who was at fault for the second interception where blame must surely be laid completely at the feet of Josh or Crowder, rather than maybe sharing it, or saying Hill made a good play.

 

Now on to the next error.

Posted
8 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:


Be fair, we have a running thread on Josh, um, running and an in-depth discussion on who was at fault for the second interception where blame must surely be laid completely at the feet of Josh or Crowder, rather than maybe sharing it, or saying Hill made a good play.

 

Now on to the next error.

And we also have people posting praise for their good plays

 

Last year there was an all-encompassing Edmunds breakdown thread every week. We need that back, probably. Props to the poster that kept up with that.

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Cam Newton called Josh Allen "A God". He is even bought in to JA17.

 

 

He’s A god. Not THEE good.. I don’t think..

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Simon said:

 

They hit Stafford 22 times last night without blitzing a single time*.

 

*(I did think I saw Milano up the A gap once in the first half but the All 22 folks claimed there were zero blitzes so I'll go with that)

and while we talk about Milano, he played a great game.  Every game it seems Milano makes a few big plays

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Posted
9 hours ago, Simon said:

 

They hit Stafford 22 times last night without blitzing a single time*.

 

*(I did think I saw Milano up the A gap once in the first half but the All 22 folks claimed there were zero blitzes so I'll go with that)


 

I know they lined up at least 2 or 3 times with LBs in the A gap - because I remember them resetting the RB tight to the LOS because of the amount of pressure.

 

I guess maybe they did not rush or they dropped someone else out.  Not sure exactly how they count “blitzes”  for statistical purposes.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

In the spirit of objective diligence, and not to hijack a thread, blame for this LA 4th down conversion seems to start with a certain maligned MLB, given Poyer's very explicit pre-snap alert that falls on deaf ears (or feet)...

 

(At the last moment, Poyer recognizes the pre-snap look and tries to alert Edmunds to the imminent WR screen to his left, but the MLB does NOT shift left or even take his first step(s) in that direction, thereby causing him to be just a step too late to make the play. It seems clear to me, but I'm sure many will disagree. And that's...okay.)


 

First you should add the time stamp 4:12 or 4:13 the play starts.

 

At least part of this is correct - Poyer recognizes it at the last minute and alerts Edmunds just before the snap.  As he slides back - Edmunds slides to his left just as the ball is snapped - so for that you are incorrect.  He is following what Poyer saw - the recognition by Poyer came late and the crowd noise prevented communication from his deep spot.

 

Then Edmunds was not a step too late really - the Edmunds thread has both still shots and the video showing him starting to breaking down right in his lane when the OLine from the Rams shoves him from the right and behind causing him to move a step beyond and into Johnson.

 

The still and videos also show Johnson getting held and blocked from behind preventing him from making the play originally.

 

There are lots of things you can blame on Edmunds, but I don’t think this play is one.  He reacts immediately at 4:15 before the snap and he get to his spot to force him inside.  The play was there for Milano to stuff it and drive him back.  The support was there for the tackle, but Oliver recognized he could not drive him forward and with incredible agility passed the scrum set his feet and tried to drive him back just as the OLine reached it and collapsed the pile forward causing Ed to twist his ankle.

 

I could understand the anger if Edmunds had missed the tackle, but he didn’t - he got to his lane and prevented Kupp from going there and forced him inside to the free tackler in Milano.  It was well played and only successful because an OLine came up and was able to shove them forward.

 

The real question is if Poyer recognized the play and gave explicit instructions to Edmunds - why did it take him so long to get to the spot himself.  If he was expecting screen and saw screen - he should have been rushing to the spot, but he actual enters the screen shot at 4:19/4:20 as Milano is making the tackle and does not head to the scrum but is jumping like we made the stop. If he keeps going in and hits the scrum they maybe get the stop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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They are really trying, but that production looked like a small step above public access TV. That's growing pains I know, but wow it's distracting!

 

Other than that, good for her if she cashed in. I just don't see too much draw for FanDuelTV. Maybe they will release numbers that prove me wrong.

 

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