Tommy Callahan Posted June 28, 2023 Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Imagine trying to step up to Dark Brandon smh The broadband Welfare spending bill is very good for large investors.
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, BillStime said: Joe is a persistent one His time would be much better spent “persistently” reading the US Constitution. 😉
BillStime Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 Turning out to be one of the best administrations in our lifetime 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Hear! Hear! https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/04/progressives-celebrate-fourth-of-july-00104547 But highlighting the hypocrisy and violence is also incomplete. For one, it makes it easier for the right to caricature our beliefs and commitments. But more importantly, failing to articulate our complex feelings of grief and belonging is also an injustice to the reality of how much we feel and care about the future of this land. And while many of us may be uncomfortable with flag-waving nationalism, we do live the values and civic ideals that embody love of country. We are tied to this place we call home. And while many of us also have diasporic and transnational ties to other people and places we love, belong to, and care about, this does not diminish our sense of connection and love that we feel to this place — to local communities and even to nation. btw, very comfortable with flag waving nationalism. Edited July 4, 2023 by redtail hawk
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 4:32 PM, BillStime said: Joe is a persistent one This is a good example of the disconnect where student loan debt comes into play. There is no doubt there are those that took loans who might “need” assistance. Perhaps they got sick, perhaps they had an accident, perhaps they went through a difficult time with the death or illness of a loved one. On the other hand, we have the people who “want” a debt solution because they want to spend the money elsewhere, or don’t want to pay it at all, or whatever. BillSy, wouldn’t you agree your siblings are in the “want” category, not the need group? It sounds like the resources were always there to pay off the obligation, it’s just that your parents preferred the debt be addressed by the student v making it a family debt. Maybe the next evolution of the discussion involves a much, much smaller number of citizens but access to higher levels of relief. 1
BillStime Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: This is a good example of the disconnect where student loan debt comes into play. There is no doubt there are those that took loans who might “need” assistance. Perhaps they got sick, perhaps they had an accident, perhaps they went through a difficult time with the death or illness of a loved one. On the other hand, we have the people who “want” a debt solution because they want to spend the money elsewhere, or don’t want to pay it at all, or whatever. BillSy, wouldn’t you agree your siblings are in the “want” category, not the need group? It sounds like the resources were always there to pay off the obligation, it’s just that your parents preferred the debt be addressed by the student v making it a family debt. Maybe the next evolution of the discussion involves a much, much smaller number of citizens but access to higher levels of relief. Do you think 75% of those who received PPP loans needed their loans… and needed their loans forgiven?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you think 75% of those who received PPP loans needed their loans… and needed their loans forgiven? You posted a link to an article about student loan forgiveness and “need”. I asked a question about the difference between something that one might “need” v something that one might “prefer”. If you’re uncomfortable discussing it, why post it in the first place?
BillStime Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You posted a link to an article about student loan forgiveness and “need”. I asked a question about the difference between something that one might “need” v something that one might “prefer”. If you’re uncomfortable discussing it, why post it in the first place? Ha! Why would I be uncomfortable? You were questioning whether my parents or siblings have a need. Like those with PPP loans - my family was simply playing by the rules. Sounds like you’re just upset that the system is set up to benefit the rich. Hence, why the rich get richer. Not my fault you continue to vote against your best interest.
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