billsfan89 Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 Honestly after a down year in 2020 Peters was decent for the Bears in 2021, the Cowboys probably got one of the better options on the market. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Is any good anymore? Or is he likely to be injured in short order…? https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jason-peters/2148 He can still ball at an above average level. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Arkady Renko said: Russ Brandon maybe? If I recall correctly they had just redone his contract when he became a full time OL, so there was a concern about precedent of constantly redoing his contract. The Bills made him what he is to a large extent. He was a fringey TE when he came into the league. Yes, when the Bills were still an NFL farm team. 51 minutes ago, PonyBoy said: Ted Washington agrees with your post. Who was that GM? Add Antoine Winfield and Pat Williams too. Guys that went on to dominate: had to be around that time period?? I’m too young to remember. 2 hours ago, unbillievable said: It wouldn't have made a difference to those teams anyway. Jairus Byrd, Marshawn Lynch, Sammy Watkins, etc... all wanted out, but held hostage by their contract, or like Dareus who got paid, then lost interest in getting better; Players just wanted out of Buffalo. Buffalo needed a culture change, and (sad to say) a new owner. You’re right. Even if Peters had stayed, his career would have been largely wasted ala Kyle Williams. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Lol I’m sorry, but the Bills not fessing up and paying this guy proper Left Tackle money is probably the most idiotic move in this Franchises history. 6x All pro, 9x Pro bowler, 2010’s all decade team, Super Bowl champion. Just insane. Who was the GM responsible for this? Nah...not even close. He would have had zero impact on the fortunes of the Bills had he stayed--How could he?. Fitz, Manuel, TT, Orton----wouldn't have made any difference at all. He made himself a nice career, but what real impact did he have in Philly? The year he was a "Super Bowl champion"--he was done before Halloween. They would only lose 2 more games all the way through the SB with a backup LT. Quote
PonyBoy Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Yes, when the Bills were still an NFL farm team. Add Antoine Winfield and Pat Williams too. Guys that went on to dominate: had to be around that time period?? I’m too young to remember. You’re right. Even if Peters had stayed, his career would have been largely wasted ala Kyle Williams. Actually @Chronic, you are correct! It was Pat Williams I was thinking of, Ted Washington like. Winfield is another great call out. All he did was make tackles all over the place. Agree with a lot of other posters though, why didn't they play like that for us? Some did, most needed to get away from Buffalo org. to shine. Sabres players too. Good times & legitimate hope with these players, regime, etc.. Let's Go Buffalo! Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: The talk certainly wasn't among NFL GMs, who let him go undrafted and then when the Bills cut him, nobody put in a waiver claim & the Bills were able to sign him to the practice squad. Like I said........the Arkansas staff trashed him..........and Buffalo did their part to perpetuate the disinformation by not playing him in the preseason. They intended to stash him on the PS. They succeeded, but he wouldn't stay there for long, would he? All he's done is become a sure-fire HOF LT and one of the more respected teammates and football-centric players in the NFL. So turns out a lot of people were wrong about him...........including you, who was among those who trashed him on here when he was traded. You guys were on the wrong side of Bills history.........both about Peters and perhaps more damning your believing whatever bullsh*t was spewed by that shyster Russ Brandon..........and you just can't own it. Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I can’t believe he still even wants to play. He doesn’t. He wants to get paid. Which is part of why he will just be ok. Quote
Arkady Renko Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Like I said........the Arkansas staff trashed him..........and Buffalo did their part to perpetuate the disinformation by not playing him in the preseason. They intended to stash him on the PS. They succeeded, but he wouldn't stay there for long, would he? All he's done is become a sure-fire HOF LT and one of the more respected teammates and football-centric players in the NFL. So turns out a lot of people were wrong about him...........including you, who was among those who trashed him on here when he was traded. You guys were on the wrong side of Bills history.........both about Peters and perhaps more damning your believing whatever bullsh*t was spewed by that shyster Russ Brandon..........and you just can't own it. Do you have some special connection to Peters? Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: He doesn’t. He wants to get paid. Which is part of why he will just be ok. I know you are just being contrarian because you were anti-Peters and pro-Russ Brandon.........and you turned out to be dead wrong.........but Peters has made over $117M in his career.........he didn't come back and play 850+ snaps for a bad Bears team last season at age 39 because he needed that extra $1.75M. The Bills don't have a guy in their history who kept playing for the love of the game like Peters has. In Philly he's remembered in the same way that Bills fans remember a guy like Kyle Williams. A gamer who was a team leader and mentor to his fellow offensive lineman. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: Do you have some special connection to Peters? Well for nearly 30 years.......since the drafting of Thurman Thomas and until the selection of Josh Allen.........Jason Peters was easily the best player the Bills had brought in from the college ranks and developed. It's not even close.......he's clearly the only one who will be a sure-fire HOF'er from that period...........and the Bills let him walk after paying him just $11M over 5 years and not wanting to give him a market deal for his position when he was among the very best in the game. Bills fans should remember these facts because if you don't know and acknowledge the mistakes of the past........you fall for whatever excuse an organization will make for not being committed to winning in the future. Anyone who thinks it's a given that the Bills are going to just automatically be a SB contender for the next 15 years forgets how quickly the winning culture that lead the team to 10 playoff appearances in 12 years, 5 championship games and 4 SB appearances disappeared when the owner got a little wishy-washy about winning and chose to instead favor the stacking of profits. 1 1 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Like I said........the Arkansas staff trashed him..........and Buffalo did their part to perpetuate the disinformation by not playing him in the preseason. They intended to stash him on the PS. They succeeded, but he wouldn't stay there for long, would he? All he's done is become a sure-fire HOF LT and one of the more respected teammates and football-centric players in the NFL. So turns out a lot of people were wrong about him...........including you, who was among those who trashed him on here when he was traded. You guys were on the wrong side of Bills history.........both about Peters and perhaps more damning your believing whatever bullsh*t was spewed by that shyster Russ Brandon..........and you just can't own it. I don't remember trashing him when he was traded: prove it with an archived post, or you've got the wrong guy. Edit: I looked at my posts from April 2009 and I found ZERO posts trashing Peters when he was traded. Next time get your facts straight before you make a statement that is blatantly false. If you have any doubts how wrong you are, go to page 193 of my activity which is around the time he was traded. The only post I have in a Peters trade thread has nothing to do with Peters or any trade. Edited September 3, 2022 by Albany,n.y. Quote
Behindenemylines Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Jason Peters was blocking for Drew Bledsoe and JP Losman once upon a time ago. That's absolutely crazy that he's still playing! Putting it like that it seems crazy. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Well for nearly 30 years.......since the drafting of Thurman Thomas and until the selection of Josh Allen.........Jason Peters was easily the best player the Bills had brought in from the college ranks and developed. It's not even close.......he's clearly the only one who will be a sure-fire HOF'er from that period...........and the Bills let him walk after paying him just $11M over 5 years and not wanting to give him a market deal for his position when he was among the very best in the game. Bills fans should remember these facts because if you don't know and acknowledge the mistakes of the past........you fall for whatever excuse an organization will make for not being committed to winning in the future. Anyone who thinks it's a given that the Bills are going to just automatically be a SB contender for the next 15 years forgets how quickly the winning culture that lead the team to 10 playoff appearances in 12 years, 5 championship games and 4 SB appearances disappeared when the owner got a little wishy-washy about winning and chose to instead favor the stacking of profits. Keeping Peters at a premium/market price would have done nothing for "winning" in Buffalo. How could it? He's one O-lineman. It's like sticking Mercedes hood ornament on a Yugo. In Philly, the Eagles had their best season in decades with him in the whirlpool before October was up. He was easily replaced and they didn't miss a beat--even with a journeyman backup down the stretch and through the SB. Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I know you are just being contrarian because you were anti-Peters and pro-Russ Brandon.........and you turned out to be dead wrong.........but Peters has made over $117M in his career.........he didn't come back and play 850+ snaps for a bad Bears team last season at age 39 because he needed that extra $1.75M. The Bills don't have a guy in their history who kept playing for the love of the game like Peters has. In Philly he's remembered in the same way that Bills fans remember a guy like Kyle Williams. A gamer who was a team leader and mentor to his fellow offensive lineman. Lol. Most of this is either fabricated, or wrong, including my supposed stance on Peters and Russ Brandon. The Bills don’t have a guy in their history who played for the love of the game? Uh…ok. If he is Philly’s version of Kyle Williams, why the hell is he going to help out their hated rival, in a season where both will be competing to win the division? It is my opinion that Kyle Williams would not have joined the Patriots, just for another shot at a paycheck. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Lol. Most of this is either fabricated, or wrong, including my supposed stance on Peters and Russ Brandon. The Bills don’t have a guy in their history who played for the love of the game? Uh…ok. If he is Philly’s version of Kyle Williams, why the hell is he going to help out their hated rival, in a season where both will be competing to win the division? It is my opinion that Kyle Williams would not have joined the Patriots, just for another shot at a paycheck. That's the thing........with each passing year more and more of the board dunces who supported Russ Brandon as GM now pretend that they did not and that it didn't color their opinion of Peters. Peters took the correct stance with a Bills organization that was pinching pennies. While many of the league's larger market owners were servicing debt while actively growing the league Ralph was doing nothing while piling up relatively massive $20M-$30M annual profits by skimming off the payroll with their cash-to-the-cap shyster-ism. That's why a lot of owners hated him and fans like yourself weren't intelligent enough to see what was happening. And no, the Bills don't have a player in their history who played 18 years, made tons of money and cemented their HOF legacy long earlier but agreed to near league minimum deals to keep playing until they were 40. Peters is a rare breed. Bruce Smith played forever but he was chasing a statistical milestone, not doing it for the love of the game. Kyle Williams was a Jason Peters type leader but Kyle called it quits after 2018 when he could have kept playing. Being with a losing franchise your whole career will do that to players though. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 21 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Remember Bledsoe Lurching around the backfield?... YOU RANG! He wa good in one Star Trek episode as well. Ridge probably knows. All I can remember was “The Old Ones” Quote
T&C Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 He is not signed. The Cowboys are in "ongoing talks" with free agent LT Jason Peters. Peters, 40, visited with the team this week and passed a physical. There looks to be momentum towards a deal for Peters, who started 15 games for Chicago last year. Signing Peters would allow the Cowboys to move first-round rookie Tyler Smith inside to open the season. RELATED: Dallas Cowboys SOURCE: Jordan Schultz on Twitter Sep 3, 2022, 9:15 AM ET 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Keeping Peters at a premium/market price would have done nothing for "winning" in Buffalo. How could it? He's one O-lineman. It's like sticking Mercedes hood ornament on a Yugo. In Philly, the Eagles had their best season in decades with him in the whirlpool before October was up. He was easily replaced and they didn't miss a beat--even with a journeyman backup down the stretch and through the SB. So you are saying that Peters couldn't have helped the Bills win over the next 14 years? That argument makes no sense. He is literally still playing and the Bills have had 5 winning seasons in that span and hovered around .500 in others. Despite being lead by the bumbling Buddy/Chan combo the league parity system positioned them roster-wise to be a perennial wildcard contender beginning when Marrone arrived........the roster didn't just start getting competitive in 2020. And yes the Eagles won the SB with what was, at the time, probably the most talented and best conditioned roster in the NFL. The Bills could have easily won the SB without Tre White last season........they were 8-6 with him and 5-1 without...........but that doesn't mean that Tre White isn't a great CB or a difference maker. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 Ralph was cheap but he wasn't greedy. If he was, he would have sold the Bills to another city well before his death. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: So you are saying that Peters couldn't have helped the Bills win over the next 14 years? That argument makes no sense. He is literally still playing and the Bills have had 5 winning seasons in that span and hovered around .500 in others. Despite being lead by the bumbling Buddy/Chan combo the league parity system positioned them roster-wise to be a perennial wildcard contender beginning when Marrone arrived........the roster didn't just start getting competitive in 2020. And yes the Eagles won the SB with what was, at the time, probably the most talented and best conditioned roster in the NFL. The Bills could have easily won the SB without Tre White last season........they were 8-6 with him and 5-1 without...........but that doesn't mean that Tre White isn't a great CB or a difference maker. Yes, that's what I'm saying. LT isn't a game changing position. It's a final piece to put a loaded Offense over the top. Otherwise, it's not gonna help if your skill positions are mediocre or worse. CB, on the other hand, is an impact position--a potential game changing position with a single play. A significant reason the Bills didn't make it to the AFCC game last year is because Levi Wallace was too dumb to notice what Kelce was shouting about his coverage (twice) at the end of the game. I bet Tre wouldn't have let that happen. Most talented roster in the NFL?? Come on. They had 1 receiver over 800 yards, no RB over 800. Wentz/Foles/Blount/Ertz/Agholor/Jeffries. Stop.... In 2020, Eagles gave up over 60 sacks. The Bears gave up 58 sacks last year (most). The best thing you can say about Peters is that the sacks probably won't be coming from his side--which is good on him I guess. His absence in 2017 had no impact at all on the Eagles. Quote
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