Jason Peters signs with Cowboys

[DJB]

40 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

A great special teamer guy too!

I didn’t know Peters played special teams. That’s amazing since he is 63 years old!

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Lol I’m sorry, but the Bills not fessing up and paying this guy proper Left Tackle money is probably the most idiotic move in this Franchises history. 6x All pro, 9x Pro bowler, 2010’s all decade team, Super Bowl champion. Just insane. Who was the GM responsible for this?

[Arkady Renko]

7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Lol I’m sorry, but the Bills not fessing up and paying this guy proper Left Tackle money is probably the most idiotic move in this Franchises history. 6x All pro, 9x Pro bowler, 2010’s all decade team, Super Bowl champion. Just insane. Who was the GM responsible for this?

Russ Brandon maybe? If I recall correctly they had just redone his contract when he became a full time OL, so there was a concern about precedent of constantly redoing his contract.  The Bills made him what he is to a large extent. He was a fringey TE when he came into the league. 

[T&C]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Better off going with the rookie at LT

Are you seeing any tweet or article that says they actually signed Peters?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

34 minutes ago, T&C said:

Are you seeing any tweet or article that says they actually signed Peters?

Maybe he saw JJ's 'glory hole' quote from a few years back, and totally misconstrued it? 🤔

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Great move for Dallas.  

This would be a great move in 2014.  
 

Peters is washed…my best friend is an Eagles fan and said he was terrible in 2020.  Bitched about him every week and said he should retire.  Couldn’t believe he was still playing in 2021.  

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:

Russ Brandon maybe? If I recall correctly they had just redone his contract when he became a full time OL, so there was a concern about precedent of constantly redoing his contract.  The Bills made him what he is to a large extent. He was a fringey TE when he came into the league. 

IIRC I think the issue that he signed an extension as an RT.  They then moved him over to a LT who are paid higher.  His argument was that after changing to a more premiere position he should be paid accordingly.  

 

To be honest, I think Peters just wanted out of Buffalo and this was how he forced his way out of town.  
 

It all goes back to relationships between the front office and players & agents.  Brandon, was horrible,  Nix and Whaley weren’t great.  Beane is excellent.
 

This happened to just about every major name who played in Buffalo and it goes to show how crappy the Bills were run during the final years of Ralph Wilson. 

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

This would be a great move in 2014.  
 

Peters is washed…my best friend is an Eagles fan and said he was terrible in 2020.  Bitched about him every week and said he should retire.  Couldn’t believe he was still playing in 2021.  

There’s a chance he’s washed….

 

my buddy, who’s a bears fan, said that he played pretty good last year and was hoping that they’d retain him.  Different strokes for different folks.  

[JohnNord]

Just now, NewEra said:

There’s a chance he’s washed….

 

my buddy, who’s a bears fan, said that he played pretty good last year and was hoping that they’d retain him.  Different strokes for different folks.  

Could be…neither us watched him much in 2021

[Charles Romes]

Second oldest player in the league

[unbillievable]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Lol I’m sorry, but the Bills not fessing up and paying this guy proper Left Tackle money is probably the most idiotic move in this Franchises history. 6x All pro, 9x Pro bowler, 2010’s all decade team, Super Bowl champion. Just insane. Who was the GM responsible for this?

 

It wouldn't have made a difference to those teams anyway.

 

Jairus Byrd, Marshawn Lynch, Sammy Watkins, etc... all wanted out, but held hostage by their contract, or like Dareus who got paid, then lost interest in getting better; Players just wanted out of Buffalo.

 

Buffalo needed a culture change, and (sad to say) a new owner.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Arkady Renko said:

  The Bills made him what he is to a large extent. He was a fringey TE when he came into the league. 

 

Ridiculous.

 

Peters was the star of the combine and there was talk he might be a first rounder as a LT despite never playing the position in college.

 

The coaching staff at Arkansas threw a ton of shade on him with NFL teams in the lead up to the draft because they were angry that he declared despite so little playing experience.    He declared because he felt that they had slow-played his development using him as a blocking TE.    

 

He was proven right.  

 

That's the theme with Peters.........all he has done is prove the naysayers to be complete idiots.

 

He owes next to nothing to the Bills for making it..........they stole him in UFA.........he became the first or second best player in the NFL at what was at the time considered the second most valuable position on the field at left tackle..........and the Bills dealt him to avoid giving him a raise from right tackle money.    Shortsighted thinking.

 

Nowadays it's a GIVEN that you update the contract of a player if you move him from a low dollar position to a high dollar one.   

 

[Mark Long Beach]

yeah, but RT to LT right after having his contract redone (twice?) was overkill.  He wanted out and he wanted money.   Most of the time those are bad people to gamble on.

[Forlorn hope]

44 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Ridiculous.

 

Peters was the star of the combine and there was talk he might be a first rounder as a LT despite never playing the position in college.

 

The coaching staff at Arkansas threw a ton of shade on him with NFL teams in the lead up to the draft because they were angry that he declared despite so little playing experience.    He declared because he felt that they had slow-played his development using him as a blocking TE.    

 

He was proven right.  

 

That's the theme with Peters.........all he has done is prove the naysayers to be complete idiots.

 

He owes next to nothing to the Bills for making it..........they stole him in UFA.........he became the first or second best player in the NFL at what was at the time considered the second most valuable position on the field at left tackle..........and the Bills dealt him to avoid giving him a raise from right tackle money.    Shortsighted thinking.

 

Nowadays it's a GIVEN that you update the contract of a player if you move him from a low dollar position to a high dollar one.   

 

I agree on this one. Sometimes it's dogma or favoritism/ nepotism but in this case peters was right. He is a Hof tackle and unfortunately he was on the Bills during absentee ownership and dealing with a carny barker in russ Brandon. I have no idea why buffalo tried to hussle him. All it did was stain the front office during that time. 

 

Also, you simply don't let go of dominant olineman period 

40 minutes ago, Mark Long Beach said:

yeah, but RT to LT right after having his contract redone (twice?) was overkill.  He wanted out and he wanted money.   Most of the time those are bad people to gamble on.

He was a rt, and signed a 4 year 24 Mill contract. Once they moved him to LT permanent he deserved a raise. That was the right thing to do. Trying to get one over on people never pays off in the long run

Edited September 2, 2022 by Forlorn hope

[Forlorn hope]

53 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

It wouldn't have made a difference to those teams anyway.

 

Jairus Byrd, Marshawn Lynch, Sammy Watkins, etc... all wanted out, but held hostage by their contract, or like Dareus who got paid, then lost interest in getting better; Players just wanted out of Buffalo.

 

Buffalo needed a culture change, and (sad to say) a new owner.

I get the culture change cliche. But what buffalo needed was a franchise QB. 

 

At the end of the day that's 80% of the issue 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Russ was too occupied in the back room to be paying attention…then the next thing you knew, Peters was traded.

[unbillievable]

Peters, and the Bills weren't the only ones dealing with the position compensation dilemma.

Jimmy Graham wanted to be paid like a WR instead of a TE.

Le'veon Bell...

Jamal Adams wants more money every other year.

All left their teams, despite being great players at the time, because teams decided they didn't want "me-first" players.

 

Lamar wants to be paid like a QB.

 

 

[Buddo]

29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Ridiculous.

 

Peters was the star of the combine and there was talk he might be a first rounder as a LT despite never playing the position in college.

 

The coaching staff at Arkansas threw a ton of shade on him with NFL teams in the lead up to the draft because they were angry that he declared despite so little playing experience.    He declared because he felt that they had slow-played his development using him as a blocking TE.    

 

He was proven right.  

 

That's the theme with Peters.........all he has done is prove the naysayers to be complete idiots.

 

He owes next to nothing to the Bills for making it..........they stole him in UFA.........he became the first or second best player in the NFL at what was at the time considered the second most valuable position on the field at left tackle..........and the Bills dealt him to avoid giving him a raise from right tackle money.    Shortsighted thinking.

 

Nowadays it's a GIVEN that you update the contract of a player if you move him from a low dollar position to a high dollar one.   

 

 

So the 'star of the combine' is an UDFA for the Bills.

 

Not exactly a 'steal', more of a chance on developing someone with a fair bit of natural athletic ability.

 

Which was done by Mouse McNally, who Peters very much saw a a mentor.

 

McNally ended up retiring from the Bills staff, after getting crocked on the sidelines at a game.

 

Around that time, was when Peters became disillusioned with things, not least his money.

 

The next thing that happened was he changed his Agent to Eugene Parker, who pretty much immediately told him to hold out.

 

The way the Bills handled that, didn't do them any favours when it came to negotiating a new deal, as Peters was fined a bunch for not showing up to TC etc.

 

 With McNally gone also, Peters wasn't too inclined to take any of the Bills offers, which didn't get to the double digits he was after, although it was rumoured they did get up to $9 million per.

 

Eventually, the Bills cut bait, and got the best deal they could from the Eagles.

 

The Bills could, and should, have handled the whole situation a lot better, and a lot sooner, but there were also aspects of the holdout, that didn't exctly show Peters in the best light.

 

While it may well be more often than not a 'given' that positional change nets a reworked contract, it was less so at the time. Still today, you get arguments over guys being tagged as TE or WR, or LB or DE.

[PonyBoy]

3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Lol I’m sorry, but the Bills not fessing up and paying this guy proper Left Tackle money is probably the most idiotic move in this Franchises history. 6x All pro, 9x Pro bowler, 2010’s all decade team, Super Bowl champion. Just insane. Who was the GM responsible for this?

Ted Washington agrees with your post. Who was that GM? 

[Albany,n.y.]

Next week after the veteran contracts are no longer guaranteed, Dallas is signing Reggie McKenzie and Joe DeLamielleure. 

They're going to call their O-line The Over The Hill Gang II  

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Ridiculous.

 

Peters was the star of the combine and there was talk he might be a first rounder as a LT despite never playing the position in college.

 

 

 

The talk certainly wasn't among NFL GMs, who let him go undrafted and then when the Bills cut him, nobody put in a waiver claim & the Bills were able to sign him to the practice squad.