OJ Howard expected to sign with Bengals (update: signs with Texans)

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Sounds like the Bengals being petty because we claimed Chrisman.

Source???

[Ethan in Cleveland]

32 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

This is a big find for the Bengals,  there he was just sitting on the waiver wire... so they pounced in there.. 

Pretty sure he is a vested veteran and not subject to waiver wire

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

We have no one behind Knox! Lol

You would keep him over Morris?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Source???

No source. Speculating. Also I wasn’t being serious. I don’t think they’d sign a player because we signed a player they wanted on their practice squad.

Edited August 31, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede

[YoloinOhio]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Sounds like the Bengals being petty because we claimed Chrisman.

That makes zero sense 

[Dan Darragh]

If he couldn't learn the Bills' playbook in 6 weeks how's he going to be ready to play for the Bagels by week 1?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

That makes zero sense 

I didn’t expect anyone to take it seriously.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

If he couldn't learn the Bills' playbook in 6 weeks how's he going to be ready to play for the Bagels by week 1?

He’s just a body, doubt he plays much if at all 

[TFBillsfan]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

You would keep him over Morris?

IMO they could have kept Howard and Morris and put Sweeney on the PS. Outside of Knox, I worry if they have to be consistently relied upon. But then again I’m not the GM or coach  

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

IMO they could have kept Howard and Morris and put Sweeney on the PS. Outside of Knox, I worry if they have to be consistently relied upon. But then again I’m not the GM or coach  

Howard didn’t do enough to make the team, it’s that simple. He got beat out by Morris for TE2 and if you are going to be kept as TE3 you need to play on teams, which he does not. It’s pretty clear he was the worst of the TEs in camp. 

Edited August 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Howard didn’t do enough to make the team, it’s that simple. He got beat out by Morris for TE2 and if you are going to be kept as TE3 you need to play on teams, which he does not. It’s pretty clear he was the worst of the TEs in camp. 

 

After seeing some of Morris tape from the preseason, both blocking and his catches... that dude looks like he can play.  The athleticism/receiving aspect was never in question, but if he can block now... that guy could be a legit TE2.

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

After seeing some of Morris tape from the preseason, both blocking and his catches... that dude looks like he can play.  The athleticism/receiving aspect was never in question, but if he can block now... that guy could be a legit TE2.

He has developed well. TE is also one of the tougher positions in the nfl for young guys to develop because it is not a position that is utilized the same way in most college schemes as it is in the league. Outside of a few college offenses, most TEs coming out of college are a projection based on measurables

Edited August 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[Rampage]

Maybe they should claim some linemen.

[hemma]

During camp at SJF, Astro used to comment about the TEs doing extra work w/Boras.  Sometimes it would be Knox  + Morris or Morris + Sweeney.

Howard was never mentioned.  He either thought he didn’t need the work or just didn’t feel the need to compete/get better.

 

I wasn’t surprised when he was cut.  I think his ‘respect the process’ was at best, Null.

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, hemma said:

During camp at SJF, Astro used to comment about the TEs doing extra work w/Boras.  Sometimes it would be Knox  + Morris or Morris + Sweeney.

Howard was never mentioned.  He either thought he didn’t need the work or just didn’t feel the need to compete/get better.

 

I wasn’t surprised when he was cut.  I think his ‘respect the process’ was at best, Null.

The failure was in the pro scouting process and decision to sign him at all, and to that deal. But it’s wise to recognize that error and cut your losses early instead of doubling down on a player that doesn’t fit and isn’t going to help your team. The money is spent either way. 

[SoCal Deek]

So many people (fans) grade a player on what they see during the games, but the coaches see these guys in meetings, practice, and the locker room. I’m guessing Howard hasn’t impressed anyone in any of those off field venues. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So many people (fans) grade a player on what they see during the games, but the coaches see these guys in meetings, practice, and the locker room. I’m guessing Howard hasn’t impressed anyone in any of those off field venues. 

They also have cameras everywhere at TC. They track the players every move during drills, on the sidelines, etc. I believe every team has these. Probably some QC coach who watches that film and reports on that to the staff. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

If playing with Josh couldn't get him going and motivated don't know what Burrow can do.

 

No hate on Burrow, maybe their TE depth is seriously lacking.

It is, they lost their starting TE last year in free agency and replaced him with Hayden Hurst. 

[BillsShredder83]

The hot girl with chlamydia, someone's always gunna wanna take a swing, till they get burned 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Commish said:

So, if he signs with the Bengals, does that affect the Bill's cap hit?

 

The correct answer is "perhaps", it depends upon the language in his contract with the Bills.

 

1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

Nope he got paid to be in Bills training campand nothing can change that.
and he'll make more getting paid somewhere else

 

He will get paid more due to per-game salary.  But, unless he had "no offset" language in his contract, anything he gets paid by the Bengals will reduce the amount he is paid by the Bills.

 

1 hour ago, BlazinBill said:

Almost certain I heard on WGR yesterday that based off contract structure if he was picked up by another team we would get cap relief from his hit- may e I misheard?

 

1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I heard this, too. I think Sal said it, but not 100%.

 

Then hopefully this is the case.  "Offset language" prevents a guy with guaranteed money from double-dipping on salary

Edited August 31, 2022 by Beck Water