OJ Howard expected to sign with Bengals (update: signs with Texans)

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I know Spotrac is not the "official" cap space entity, but OJ Howard's 2022 dead money cost came down about $950k.

Bills now have $3.1M in cap space.

FWIW.

I thought his dead cap this year wouldn't change only next year?

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I just noticed this too. If Sportrac is right then info from Sal that we get any cap space back next year was incorrect. But I guess Sal might be right and Sportrac just simplified things.

 

Also, do we know if this is final or he needs to stay on the Texans roster (and we get some prorated number if he is cut)?

 

I don't know about what happens if he is cut.  I try to keep an eye on things like this, so I know in the future.

 

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I thought his dead cap this year wouldn't change only next year?

 

So did I but the more I thought about it (after I saw today that his dead cap changed for 2022) is his signing bonus for 2023 is

a fixed cost.  Maybe Sal was wrong.

[StHustle]

31 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I thought his dead cap this year wouldn't change only next year?

Beane said exactly that. We need OJ to remain a Texan all year to get the full credit so it can’t be applied til the offseason. If we end up getting over 2M of that dead money freed up then Beane is proven to be a true wizard once again. He clearly knows these rules and that it would be likely if Oj didn’t make our team he would be picked up by another.

[Arkady Renko]

2TDs today already for the Texans. 

[Warriorspikes51]

This is baffling to me. Why was he cut?

 

even if he didn’t play often, a 6’6 250 target for the redzone is of more value than what Morris and Sweeney currently offer

 

even more puzzling that Beane mentioned he wouldn’t hesistate to bring Howard back if he was available?

 

could we see a strange trade at deadline of Sweeney or a 7th for Howard?

Edited September 11, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[NewEra]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

This is baffling to me. Why was he cut?

 

even if he didn’t play often, a 6’6 250 target for the redzone is of more value than what Morris and Sweeney currently offer

I agree that he’s better than Sweeney.  But Sweeney is part of the boys club 

[Warcodered]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

This is baffling to me. Why was he cut?

 

even if he didn’t play often, a 6’6 250 target for the redzone is of more value than what Morris and Sweeney currently offer

So wait are we complaining the other direction now?

[mrags]

Yeah he shouldn’t have been cut. Don’t really see why he was. But the coaches and GM did so my guess is he wasn’t a hard worker, or was an idiot and couldn’t learn the offense, or had a me first attitude. Something along those lines. 

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So wait are we complaining the other direction now?

if our TE2 doesn’t see the field much what brings the most value? Howard is as good of a blocker as Morris and Sweeney…and clearly offers more value in the Redzone

Just now, mrags said:

Yeah he shouldn’t have been cut. Don’t really see why he was. But the coaches and GM did so my guess is he wasn’t a hard worker, or was an idiot and couldn’t learn the offense, or had a me first attitude. Something along those lines. 

this would make sense

[blacklabel]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

if our TE2 doesn’t see the field much what brings the most value? Howard is as good of a blocker as Morris and Sweeney…and clearly offers more value in the Redzone

this would make sense

 

 

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

  3 minutes ago, mrags said:

Yeah he shouldn’t have been cut. Don’t really see why he was. But the coaches and GM did so my guess is he wasn’t a hard worker, or was an idiot and couldn’t learn the offense, or had a me first attitude. Something along those lines. 

 

It's none of the reasons you two seem to think it is... Howard's best trait coming out of Alabama in 2017 was his freak athleticism. In 2020 he tore his Achilles and hasn't been the same since. Reports from camp and the pre-season all said the same thing: the dude looked slow and laboring in his route running and his blocking wasn't any better than Morris or Sweeney. Bucs fans warned us that the dude just wasn't the same after that injury. He missed most of 2020 and when he came back in 2021 he was the third TE behind Gronk and Cameron Brate, who isn't exactly an All-Pro. The Bills took a chance to see if he was anywhere near where he was before the injury and it seems he wasn't so he didn't make the team. It happens. 

[without a drought]

If the Bills kept him, do you think it would've cut into Knox's 2 targets.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, without a drought said:

If the Bills kept him, do you think it would've cut into Knox's 2 targets.

Perhaps the LB matchup with the Rams had something to do with that? Wagner is the best we’ll see all year

[Rick 'r Mortis]

56 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

2TDs today already for the Texans. 

And there it is.

[Royale with Cheese]

Who gives a ****.
 

We just put up 31 on the road against the World Champs and we got to bring up a back up TE.

[Aurelius]

I still think double tight ends near the goal line and I’d love Howard there as opposed to keeping Sweeney etc.  The cap hit was already done.  Should have kept him and let somebody else go.

[Warcodered]

Finally someone makes a kick.

[TampaBillsJunkie]

2 TD's for him today. 

 

[716er]

Jerry Hughes was more impressive than Howard today 

[Scott7975]

Sweeney had a TD last year too.  Who cares.  Howard was garbage all camp and in preseason.  Thats why he was cut.

[streetkings01]

Week 1 overreaction lol