Which player on the roster baffles you that they are on this team?

[John from Riverside]

Beyond a doubt Tommy Sweeney

[HOUSE]

13 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

What surprises me is not that Jones is a great gunner and therefore kept on the roster, but that year after year, they can't find a guy who they can coach up to be a really good gunner who is also a viable backup at a position of need.  So many good athletes pass through that don't make it.  Couldn't a backup CB, S, LB or (viable) RB be molded into a gunner over the course of a training camp or a season on the Practice Squad?  Or is it just that specialized a skill and Jones just that much better at it?  Given that I trust our coaching staff and front office, I'd have to say yes.

Thank You

 

[Nuncha]

18 minutes ago, balln said:

Bobby hart. He’s awful 

He's my choice.  

[Rubes]

16 minutes ago, Airseven said:

More so generally baffled that the OL is still mediocre with little depth, TEs the same, and CB is a wild roll of the dice amongst rookies.

 

 

Shocker.

 

[AuntieEm]

21 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

My guess is Tyrel is probably also wondering why Sweeney is on the team....

 

   Dunno who he's referring to.  I certainly hope he's tweeting about another teams transactions.  Otherwise publicly commenting in a somewhat negative tone doesn't seem like he's fully into the process. If he has some beef with the cuts he should keep it behind closed doors and not be tweeting cryptic innuendo.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by AuntieEm

[oldmanfan]

None really.  You can say Sweeney but Howard just did not show up.  I suppose you could exchange say a Hart for one of the other guys but is there really much difference there?  I might have kept Hodgins over Kumerow but special teams always have been and always will be a priority for this staff.

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[Warcodered]

23 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

My guess is Tyrel is probably also wondering why Sweeney is on the team....

Are we sure it's not just about this?

 

 

[Freddie's Dead]

Gilliam.  Like DiMarco before him, useless as breasts on a bull (I used the t-word).

[Beck Water]

 

26 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Stevenson over Hodgins and Can Roten over Mancz make no sense to me. I’m no Sweeney fan, but I also don’t get all the hate he’s been getting. I think people just wanted to believe that OJ Howard would be good and don’t want to admit he sucked.

He legitimately played really well in the preseason.

 

Stevenson is likely going on IR to make room for a punter on Weds.  He has that trait you can't coach: speed.

 

Per Buscaglia, Van Roten > Mancz is a matter of "best ability is availability" as Mancz has had ankle injuries the last 3 seasons and had them in training camp.

But I hope Kromer and Beane are combing the waiver wire for an upgrade.

[buffaloboyinATL]

29 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Stevenson over Hodgins 

Stevenson will be on IR after 24 on the active roster.  Or receive an injury settlement.  

[HappyDays]

20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You can say Sweeney but Howard just did not show up.

 

If they decided to keep Morris over Howard I can live with that, Morris is at least somewhat of an unknown. But we already know what Sweeney is in this league. For all intents and purposes the Bills had one TE on the roster last year, they stopped dressing Sweeney after his awful showing in the Panthers game. He can't block, he can't separate, he can't catch. He is not even a JAG. Personally I wouldn't even keep him on the PS. I just can't figure out why this regime would keep him over Howard considering the dead cap hit.

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by HappyDays

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

If they decided to keep Morris over Howard I can live with that, Morris is at least somewhat of an unknown. But we already know what Sweeney is in this league. For all intents and purposes the Bills had one TE on the roster last year, they stopped dressing Sweeney after his awful showing in the Panthers game. He can't block, he can't separate, he can't catch. He is not even a JAG. Personally I wouldn't even keep him on the PS. I just can't figure out why this regime would keep him over Howard considering the dead cap hit.

 

Because Howard simply did not play well, worse than Sweeney.  That seemed clear watching the preseasons.  Watching those games I question whether Howard’s heart was all in to be honest.  The reality is it will be Knox and Morris doing the work, Gilliam for blocking, and Sweeney if a guy goes down.  You’re right that he’ll likely be inactive a lot but someone has to be, I guess.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

40 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

What surprises me is not that Jones is a great gunner and therefore kept on the roster, but that year after year, they can't find a guy who they can coach up to be a really good gunner who is also a viable backup at a position of need.  So many good athletes pass through that don't make it.  Couldn't a backup CB, S, LB or (viable) RB be molded into a gunner over the course of a training camp or a season on the Practice Squad?  Or is it just that specialized a skill and Jones just that much better at it?  Given that I trust our coaching staff and front office, I'd have to say yes.

Because special teams is more of a how bad do you want it

 

And most NFL starters, And fringe starters… Have too much hope of being a full-time player… To lay it all on the line on special teams

 

It’s a very violent third of the game

 

And it’s all about who wants it more.. The bottom half of the roster want it more on STs

[LABILLBACKER]

1. Sweeney 

2. Hart

3. Stevenson 

4. Gilliam DiMarco

[ghostwriter]

55 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Yeah it's Sweeney. I know OJ Howard had a disappointing offseason but he is a better TE than Sweeney by default. I don't understand eating the dead cap hit only to keep a lesser player on the team. Hopefully he is only on the team for right now until they need his roster spot for a different position.

Sometimes a team will go with a player like Sweeney, who although he is not as talented as Howard, he will grind 10x harder. Culture/Process thing.

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Because Howard simply did not play well, worse than Sweeney.

 

I don't agree with that. I'm not saying Howard played well but it was better than anything Sweeney has ever shown. You may be right that they decided that his heart isn't it, and I don't mind if that's why they cut him. I just don't agree Sweeney's "heart" comes anywhere close to bridging the talent gap.

 

All this being said it's possible Sweeney is a temporary roster spot that they'll eventually replace with a better TE or another position entirely. In that event no complaints from me.

[Sierra Foothills]

35 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   Dunno who he's referring to.  I certainly hope he's tweeting about another teams transactions.  Otherwise publicly commenting in a somewhat negative tone doesn't seem like he's fully into the process. If he has some beef with the cuts he should keep it behind closed doors and not be tweeting cryptic innuendo.

 

 

 

"Process Police to locker 53..."

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Special teams… they value it way, way too much. 

 

He played one special teams snap last year...

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Apparently, I am the only guy here who likes sweeney! 😃

 

give the guy a chance! I thought he has flashed at times. He played 6 games as a rookie, and missed his entire second season, so he is still really inexperienced still.  I think he can still develop into a solid #2 TE. 

[HOUSE]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Apparently, I am the only guy here who likes sweeney! 😃

 

give the guy a chance! I thought he has flashed at times. He played 6 games as a rookie, and missed his entire second season, so he is still really inexperienced still.  I think he can still develop into a solid #2 TE. 

Wax on wax off