Jags trade Laviska Shenault to Panthers

[RyanC883]

On 3/14/2025 at 8:42 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Palmer

Shakir

Coleman

Samuel

Shenault 
 

On paper at least.....once again it's a below average group 

 

totally underwhelming.  not one of them scares a DC.  

[Kelly to Allen]

On 3/14/2025 at 8:42 AM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Palmer

Shakir

Coleman

Samuel

Shenault 
 

On paper at least.....once again it's a below average group 

 

What if Coleman truly breaks out like Eric Moulds did tho?

 

I know it's a big if

[uticaclub]

1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

What if Coleman truly breaks out like Eric Moulds did tho?

 

I know it's a big if

Moulds returned kicks & punts before he broke out from under a still productive Andre Reed….Coleman looked good against Tennessee & Seattle.

[boyst]

6 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Moulds returned kicks & punts before he broke out from under a still productive Andre Reed….Coleman looked good against Tennessee & Seattle.

Even then, no one truly appreciates how amazing moulds for. 5 yards and 1 TD from the 10k 50TD. 

 

He was as good as any other in the league. 

[uticaclub]

9 minutes ago, boyst said:

Even then, no one truly appreciates how amazing moulds for. 5 yards and 1 TD from the 10k 50TD. 

 

He was as good as any other in the league. 

He might have been all time great had he better QBs after he signed his big money extension with us. Didnt he try to play in the NBA?

[Buffalo716]

25 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

He might have been all time great had he better QBs after he signed his big money extension with us. Didnt he try to play in the NBA?

He got force fed his whole career 

 

He is what he is.. even with a super old Jim Kelly Andre Reed went for 1,000, moulds like 275

 

He is what he is a very good receiver who never took it up to consistent All pro level

[HOUSE]

We can't even afford to buy our WRs shoes...

[Kornfed]

Moulds was awesome on mostly QB starved Bills teams. I don’t think LS comes close. Check out his interview and tell me he’s grounded enough to make this roster. Hope I’m wrong but just got a feeling. … not happening 

 

[3rdand12]

14 hours ago, Kornfed said:

Moulds was awesome on mostly QB starved Bills teams. I don’t think LS comes close. Check out his interview and tell me he’s grounded enough to make this roster. Hope I’m wrong but just got a feeling. … not happening 

 

Its a flyer at best.

I miss Mack already

[BADOLBILZ]

On 3/15/2025 at 3:03 PM, uticaclub said:

Moulds returned kicks & punts before he broke out from under a still productive Andre Reed….Coleman looked good against Tennessee & Seattle.

 

 

Moulds didn't break out "from under" Andre Reed..........he was just a totally useless POS for the first two seasons.   He couldn't get out from under ANY of the Bills WR's.   Beating on women, evading child support.......he was too pre-occupied off the field to be of any use on it.   He broke out in 1998 because he knew the Bills were ready to release him that training camp if he didn't prove his worth.   And back then, with 1st round contract values vastly inflated versus the rank and file, that meant he was facing a HUGE pay cut if he hit the street as the busted bum he was to that point. 

 

[Breakout Squad]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Moulds didn't break out "from under" Andre Reed..........he was just a totally useless POS for the first two seasons.   He couldn't get out from under ANY of the Bills WR's.   Beating on women, evading child support.......he was too pre-occupied off the field to be of any use on it.   He broke out in 1998 because he knew the Bills were ready to release him that training camp if he didn't prove his worth.   And back then, with 1st round contract values vastly inflated versus the rank and file, that meant he was facing a HUGE pay cut if he hit the street as the busted bum he was to that point. 

 

So he wasn’t the greatest human being in his 20’s. Shocking. Can’t say I feel sorry for the women that had unprotected sex with him knowing he was engaged….who then proceeded to sue him for giving them herpes.  THOTS gonna THOT for rich athletes. That’s on them. 
 

I didn’t hear about him being an abuser. If he was then that’s unacceptable. 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

So he wasn’t the greatest human being in his 20’s. Shocking. Can’t say I feel sorry for the women that had unprotected sex with him knowing he was engaged….who then proceeded to sue him for giving them herpes.  THOTS gonna THOT for rich athletes. That’s on them. 
 

I didn’t hear about him being an abuser. If he was then that’s unacceptable. 

 

Yeah, your morality division is interesting but not anything to do with the point.

 

The point is.......Moulds personally wasted 2 years of his career(when his 1996 draft peers came out firing).   Which were also 2 years of some of the most talented Bills football teams he played on.

 

 He's not a sympathetic character even if you don't care whatsoever about him being a deadbeat dad, choking women out or knowingly infecting them with STD's.   He wasted more opportunity with his lack of focus on his craft early than he lost later by not having a great QB.

 

Having guys like Flutie and Rojo and Bledsoe gave him guys who had limited field vision and were therefore willing to throw jump balls up to his always-covered ass 10 times per game in his prime.   Literally 150 targets per season in his prime 2000-2004.   He had a near perfect setup in Buffalo to be able to succeed despite his limitations getting open.

 

After his surreal 1998 season(the greatest Bills WR season ever by far).......he put on 10 more pounds of muscle, which slowed him down considerably and he then struggled mightily to get open for the rest of his career despite there being was much less physicality allowed within routes, at the top of routes, and prior to the catch point than there is today.   Much less.   It's almost an unrecognizable game played in the secondary by comparison.   Back then, receivers were hit at the line but then could not be grabbed, ridden around and water-skied all over the field like they are today without drawing a flag.   Defense's instead dealt with them by gratuitous violence as the ball arrived and after the catch.    

[Solomon Grundy]

I'm hoping for Colorado Shenault 

[Bill from NYC]

6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

  Back then, receivers were hit at the line but then could not be grabbed, ridden around and water-skied all over the field like they are today without drawing a flag.   Defense's instead dealt with them by gratuitous violence as the ball arrived and after the catch.    

This is SO true. I suspect that many young fans don't realize that defensive backs were the most violent defenders. After them I would say linebackers were next and the least dangerous defenders would be the linemen. 

 

The Oakland Raiders secondary consisted of blood thirsty, dangerous men. I remenber seeing receivers over the middle getting speared in the back, often on incomplete, overthrown passes. Receivers over the middle would leap for a ball and get wiped out. Many dbs bordered on criminal behavior imo. Today it does appear to be pass interference on a huge portion of plays. 

 

Looking back, it is clear that the violence was excessive and players did pay the price with serious health issues. It really had to change. That said, why do you think that they now allow so much contact in the secondary?

Edited 44 minutes ago by Bill from NYC