Buffalo716 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 5:40 PM, Airseven said: Typical Belichick with his psyche shenanigans. Pats will be solid. Lots of talent on that defense. Barmore could be the best DL in the division. Expand Yea a second year player with 1.5 sacks and 3 tackles for a loss is the best d lineman in the division 🤦 Quote
WhoTom Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 6:26 PM, dpberr said: The Bills are testament that your franchise is running in place without blue chip talent at QB, so you've got to tank it to get into position to get one. Expand We made the playoffs the year before drafting Josh, and had mediocre seasons before that. We traded up in the draft to get him. Tanking isn't required and frequently doesn't work. 2 Quote
dpberr Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:13 PM, WhoTom said: We made the playoffs the year before drafting Josh, and had mediocre seasons before that. We traded up in the draft to get him. Tanking isn't required and frequently doesn't work. Expand The Patriots litmus of a successful season isn't simply making the playoffs. Tanking works to get you into the best position to select the best talent. Quote
HerdMenatlity1 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 5:45 PM, Captain Hindsight said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots Miami Pittsburgh Baltimore Green Bay 0-4 was a real possibility before hiring Patricia Expand They're winning their first 2 games and end up 3-1 after those 4 games. How's that for a BOLD PREDICTION?!?! Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 6:13 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Their roster management has been a catastrophe. They need a GM. He might be a good coach but he's the worst GM since Matt Millen. Expand It’s hard to call him the worst GM Since Millen when he has 3 SBs as a coach/GM with a team he built Does his drafting record look the greatest? no But his ability to put together teams and coach them over 15 years is unquestionable… Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 5:29 PM, BillsFanSD said: Breaks my heart to see this happen to such a proud franchise. Just kidding I hope they go 0-17. Expand How about 0-13-4, tying the jets and dolphins twice… ? Quote
stevewin Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 6:52 PM, HOUSE said: There is no reason why the Patriots should not be ready by week one. I think you give Billichick to much credit after a horrible training camp. Who will the Patrots fans blame after a disappointing start ? It is coaching and he wouldn't even assign a OC. Expand This. If Bellicheat is such a genius coach why can't he have his team ready for the start of the season? Every other coach is expected to. F him. Quote
BillsFanSD Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 6:44 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Be careful laughing at Belichick. He has a knack for pulling chicken salad out of chicken poop. Still expect the Patriots to be our only competition for the division title this year. And the Bills are once again going to have to earn it if they want it (12-14 wins). Expand Miami has already passed them IMO. Quote
HerdMenatlity1 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:11 PM, Buffalo716 said: Yea a second year player with 1.5 sacks and 3 tackles for a loss is the best d lineman in the division 🤦 Expand Just in case you missed it, the word "could" means a lot in his post. But, hey, carry on. Quote
Steptide Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 I'm all about the Patriots sucking. Serves them right for dominating the NFL for 20 years. Having said that, they still beat us last year (granted in 50 mph winds) but I'll still take them seriously everytime the bills play them, as I'm sure the bills will too Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/29/2022 at 7:33 PM, Dopey said: Just in case you missed it, the word "could" means a lot in his post. But, hey, carry on. Expand That’s a huge could There’s a good amount of lineman better Brian Moorman could also come out of retirement to punt for us Edited August 29, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
WhoTom Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:15 PM, dpberr said: The Patriots litmus of a successful season isn't simply making the playoffs. Tanking works to get you into the best position to select the best talent. Expand My point is that we didn't tank to get Josh. Teams that did tank in 2017 - Browns, Giants, Colts, Texans - didn't get a franchise QB out of it. Tanking works to get you into the best position to draft the best talent, but 1) it's somewhat of a crapshoot to identify that talent, 2) a roster that's so bad that tanking occurs naturally probably can't be turned around by one player, and 3) players and coaches aren't going to intentionally tank because they're playing for future contracts, if not pride. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19652764/tanking-nfl-advantages-disadvantages-worth-new-york-jets-cleveland-browns-2017 https://nypost.com/2019/02/07/why-tanking-in-the-nfl-is-barely-existent/ Show me a recent example of a team that tanked its way to a Lombardi. Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 6:44 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Be careful laughing at Belichick. He has a knack for pulling chicken salad out of chicken poop. Still expect the Patriots to be our only competition for the division title this year. And the Bills are once again going to have to earn it if they want it (12-14 wins). Expand The team top to bottom are not going to take any games for granted this season, they saw what that entitled attitude got them during the regular season last year. I hate to say it but, we should do what the pats used to do, run up the score in every game, no mercy, 1 Quote
HerdMenatlity1 Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:42 PM, Buffalo716 said: That’s a huge could There’s a good amount of lineman better Brian Moorman could also come out of retirement to punt for us Expand So you got the point I was making. 👍 Quote
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 I don't believe anything Belichick says. They have a young qb who should improve significantly entering year 2. They added Davante Parker. They have a very good offensive line (as usual) The combo of Damien Harris and Rhamondre Stevenson is going to wear out opposing defenses. They have lost stars on defense, but Belichick always finds a way to put his young players in a position to be successful. They were leading the AFC East for a significant portion of last season. Belichick is a master of deception on and off the field: "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak " Sun Tzu Quote
eball Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 It's all fun and games to laugh at the Pats* -- believe me, I enjoy it -- but every team starts the season still feeling its way around. Even established teams undergo some roster/coaching churn, and nobody knows exactly how it will all play out. Sometimes it takes a few games. Nobody wins a championship in September and October, but the key is not putting yourself too far behind the eight ball with a slow start. 1 Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/29/2022 at 7:50 PM, Allen2Diggs said: I don't believe anything Belichick says. They have a young qb who should improve significantly entering year 2. They added Davante Parker. They have a very good offensive line (as usual) The combo of Damien Harris and Rhamondre Stevenson is going to wear out opposing defenses. They have lost stars on defense, but Belichick always finds a way to put his young players in a position to be successful. They were leading the AFC East for a significant portion of last season. Belichick is a master of deception on and off the field: "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak " Sun Tzu Expand They have a young qb who should improve significantly entering year 2. - Why? Many people think he was at his ceiling coming out of college. He had the best coaching, facilities, etc from high school through college. They have lost stars on defense, but Belichick always finds a way to put his young players in a position to be successful. - You mean like the last 2 games against Buffalo where they didn't force a single punt? Edited August 29, 2022 by HereComesTheReignAgain Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 7:32 PM, BillsFanSD said: Miami has already passed them IMO. Expand Dolphins are a joke. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted August 29, 2022 Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 8:04 PM, Wayne Arnold said: Dolphins are a joke. Expand they have a better roster than NE, but their head coach is a huge question mark. Quote
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