OJ Howard

[machine gun kelly]

  On 8/29/2022 at 2:41 PM, Wayne Arnold said:

 

He's brand new to this offensive system. Sometimes it takes guys time.

 

Howard is a great physical talent. His contract this year is fully guaranteed. Those two reasons alone likely means he's safe.

 

Should keep Knox, Howard and Morris. Sweeney is as good as he's ever going to be, which isn't good enough.

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Hes a dead cap hit if we cut.

[BuffaninSarasota]

  On 8/29/2022 at 3:30 PM, In Summary said:

Asking a question here:  Where does Reggie Gilliam fit into any TE role/depth?  Is he at best just a duplicate in blocking for Howard and Sweeney or does he offer more?  

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Gilliam is not an inline TE, he's a FB

[Beck Water]

  On 8/29/2022 at 2:50 PM, gonzo1105 said:

He has been good at doing the smaller things. I said a couple of weeks ago that he should really be expected to be Lee Smith at this point, which is great. He’s a good blocker, have him catch some red zone TDs.

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  I've seen Lee Smith block.   OJ Howard is no Lee Smith.

[Beck Water]

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:07 PM, machine gun kelly said:

I can’t remember the name of the guest who was on with Joe on the extra point show, but he made good points that Howard is a better blocker than Sweeney and is why we brought him in here as well as a big and tough red zone target.

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Howard arrived with a reputation as a good blocker, but I'll be honest - when I've seen him blocking, I've been disappointed.  His blocking form is a lot better than Sweeney, he just doesn't seem to get 'er done. 

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:07 PM, machine gun kelly said:

 

Morris went down today with a hammy, so we’ll see.  He is much closer to Knox then the others.  Sweeney is most likely a cut, if a little serious Morris to PUP, and it’s Knox and Howard.

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This is a picky point, but PUP is not available to Morris (or anyone) once they take a snap in training camp.  If he's injured, his choices are season-ending IR (if placed on IR during camp) OR, put him on the 53 man roster to start camp then switch him to IR eligible to return.

 

I *think* we could also waive him injured, but then there are restrictions on when we could re-sign him.

 

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:07 PM, machine gun kelly said:

Sweeney is useless.  A nice guy, but looked horrible when he had to step up last year.

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I agree with that last, but the coaches are saying he's really improved this camp.

[Yard Monkey]

Cut

Bills release tight end O.J. Howard after five months with team (nfl.com)

[HOUSE]

Another guy who is super slow to recover from a serious injury. I wish him well...

[Peace Frog]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:11 PM, Yard Monkey said:

Cut

Bills release tight end O.J. Howard after five months with team (nfl.com)

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https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-release-o-j-howard-123322160.html

 

[ddaryl]

This one hurts.. Spent a lot to bring him in here and didn't get what they were hoping for.

Morris looked decent at blocking and better at receiving.. Sweeney is te question mark

[Beast]

OJ and cut seems to go hand and hand like peanut butter and jelly.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:18 PM, ddaryl said:

This one hurts.. Spent a lot to bring him in here and didn't get what they were hoping for.

Morris looked decent at blocking and better at receiving.. Sweeney is te question mark

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Doesn’t really hurt but I did think he’d be a part of the “new” offense.

 

Sweeney seems to be a core depth player. I’ve never really seen anything but they like him around.

[dollars 2 donuts]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:21 PM, Beast said:

OJ and cut seems to go hand and hand like peanut butter and jelly.

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Edgy.

 

Man, Beast, it is crazy...it is 28 years ago.

 

I remember where I was and what I was doing during the Bronco chase.

 

 

[JaCrispy]

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:07 PM, Jay_Fixit said:

He’s just not good.

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He doesn’t have the fire to be great…he just stays afloat on his athletic abilities alone…

Edited August 30, 2022 by JaCrispy

[nucci]

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:07 PM, Jay_Fixit said:

He’s just not good.

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[ddaryl]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:21 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Doesn’t really hurt but I did think he’d be a part of the “new” offense.

 

Sweeney seems to be a core depth player. I’ve never really seen anything but they like him around.

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From the money perspective since he had a fully guarenteed contract and we're up close against the cap with little room

[NewEra]

I really hope Morris is the TE2 and sweeney is PS or outright gone.  

[K D]

I don't like getting nothing for him and just eating the guaranteed salary. That seems silly. Nobody would give us a 7th rounder in 2025 for him or something?

[Bangarang]

  On 8/29/2022 at 3:35 PM, Don Otreply said:

Howard will be TE 2, he was never in danger of being cut, he is better overall than his competition, add in the cash hit for releasing him and it becomes obvious, 

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Obviously

[ddaryl]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:34 PM, KDIGGZ said:

I don't like getting nothing for him and just eating the guaranteed salary. That seems silly. Nobody would give us a 7th rounder in 2025 for him or something?

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If he was singend for the vet minimum maybe, but a fully guarenteed contract that he had kept him out of any possible trade probablilities. 

[wppete]

Disappointing but he just didn’t look good out there. Look led sluggish. Seems like a solid guy, hope I h the best for him….. Morris will turn some heads this year. 

[LabattBlue]

Should have known that a guy named OJ was not going to cut it with the Bills.

Edited August 30, 2022 by BTB