Matt Barkley...Keep on the Roster

[LabattBlue]

36 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

$207k per year.  I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little more.

Damn.  You would think it would be tiered where players with a certain number of years would bet more. 

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Keenum didn't show as a better option than Barkley.  I just love the fact that he was willing to do whatever including punting during the preseason because it was needed.

 

In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string.  In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good.  Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option.  There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum.  Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad.

6 minutes ago, BTB said:

Damn.  You would think it would be tiered where players with a certain number of years would bet more. 

 

It is 

 

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary

 

Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks.

Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks.

[Billzgobowlin]

53 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string.  In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good.  Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option.  There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum.  Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad.

 

It is 

 

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary

 

Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks.

Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks.

There is also a financial benefit to cutting him.  Not saying that they will but he isn't necessarily looking sharp either

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

Right -- I forgot. I will fix it.   In any case, I doubt that any team will pick him up for their 53 and I assume he would rather be in the Bill's practice squad than another teams.

 

 Yes he would have to be given quite the offer to leave the Bills imho.  He and his family likely were thrilled to return to the area and the team.  Barkley has earned a decent amount in his time in nfl so money alone likely isn't gonna entice him and his skillset is not a starting qb really or he'd already have secured a spot with the utter lack of qb talent that was in the NFL when he got drafted.  That low level of talent for starting qb has risen somewhat but still not sufficient to fill the backup and vet roles in wb rooms with options better than Barkley.  He's also likely on a team friendly salary.

1 hour ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

In the 1st and 3rd games Keenum played with our 2nd string against the other teams 1st - 2nd string.  In the one game where he played with our starters he looked good.  Aside from that, Keenum and Barkley both have large books of work (including training camp this year) that indicate Keenum is the better option.  There's also a salary cap / financial implication to cutting Keenum.  Keenum's gonna be the backup, with Barkley on the practice squad.

 

It is 

 

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nfl+practice+squad+salary

 

Practice Squad minimum salary: $9,200 per week or $165,600 for 18 weeks.

Practice squad salary for veterans with 2+ years of experience: Approximately $14,000 per week or $252,000 for 18 weeks.

 

  I also believe there is nothing preventing a team of giving some sort of signing bonus to a player they put on the PS.  So Bills could send a lil bonus his way to offset the money differences.

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

 

I'm 98% sure that he will be cutted and then placed on the practice squad to be this year's Davis Webb.   It's highly doubtful that someone else pick him up and put him on their 53 at cutdown.

Bang. PS, and the team has the discretion to give him more than the minimum.  They can sweeten a little and he probably won’t be poached. It’s the smart move.  He’ll be here IMO.

[Charles Romes]

Helped set the league record for number of Matts to punt for one team in a single preseason. Unlikely to ever be broken. 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, Wizard said:

We all have our favorite 2-3 guys that we want on the 53 man roster.

 

For me, Matt Barkley is one of those guys. I get it. He's the 3rd string QB on most predictions. He likely would be inactive each week, but he can still fill-in 

 

I just think what he adds to the QB room, his knowledge of the offense, and his willingness to try to fill a hole in a pich is valuable.

 

So, who do I cut?  I would cut whomever is the 5th or 6th special teams guy or that 9th or 7th guy at a position.

 

I will admit, I immediately felt bad for Barkley as a person when we traded for Keenum.  He and Josh are close, the team loves him, he loves being here.  He is a fun guy and good energy on the team.

 

But, end of the day, it is really hard to imagine or even justify keeping a 3rd QB.  And Keenum is just a better QB, so as much as I like the guy, he won't be on the team IMHO.  

 

And he clearly loves it here, so feel bad for him, but its the right football decision.  

[strive_for_five_guy]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Just keep him as punter. Let him focus on punting, then if you need an emergency QB, he's available. Knock on wood.

Plus, then you have the Holding Specialist as recommended by @BringBackFergy.  Besides the emergency QB option and the holding specialist, adds another threat of fakes to the field goal and punting formations.

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

There is also a financial benefit to cutting him.  Not saying that they will but he isn't necessarily looking sharp either

 

Is there?  From what I can tell his entire contract this year ($3.5 million is guaranteed) and he's off the books after this year.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/case-keenum-10079/

[Simon Says]

3 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Keenum didn't show as a better option than Barkley.  I just love the fact that he was willing to do whatever including punting during the preseason because it was needed.

Look at Keenum and Barkley career stats....

[Captain Caveman]

Just now, Bills2022 said:

I would keep Barkley over Keenum.  I see no reason to spend millions extra on a backup QB.  

 

It's already spent, his full contract is guaranteed.

[ColoradoBills]

14 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Is there?  From what I can tell his entire contract this year ($3.5 million is guaranteed) and he's off the books after this year.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/case-keenum-10079/

 

All of his guaranteed money was cleared when he was traded.  He has no dead cap hit right now.

His salary will guarantee after the cutdown.

 

Not that I want the Bills to cut him.

[Simon Says]

4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Just keep him as punter. Let him focus on punting, then if you need an emergency QB, he's available. Knock on wood.

I assume you are kidding but I admire his effort. 

[CorkScrewHill]

4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

$207k per year.  I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little more.

He is here for 2 reasons .. 1) a great voice in Josh’s ear and who Josh respects; 2) to continue to build his credibility as a future QB coach .. which is the best path to OC and then HC

[Jerome007]

I wonder though about having only 2 active QBs, isn't that a risk? There must be a reason most teams have 3 QBs.

[Solomon Grundy]

Anybody else missing Mitchell right about now? 

[wppete]

Cut him and PS roster. Simple. 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Georgie said:

I assume you are kidding but I admire his effort. 

I guess if you could talk to him about if you can keep him in that role until you find someone but he'd have to be cool with being on the team in a spot he's going to get cut for instead of potentially out there to get picked up by another team.

[Bills2022]

45 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

He is here for 2 reasons .. 1) a great voice in Josh’s ear and who Josh respects; 2) to continue to build his credibility as a future QB coach .. which is the best path to OC and then HC

 

He should get some lucrative Buffalo endorsements.  Put him on the Practice squad and get him some car dealership and restaurant endorsements. He might be the most popular player on the Bills right now after his punting job.

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

I wonder though about having only 2 active QBs, isn't that a risk? There must be a reason most teams have 3 QBs.

 

If Barkley is on the PS I see minimal risk.  He can be activated if needed.  The only risk is having 2 QBs going down in one game.

Even if it happens, I'm sure the chances of QB3 coming in cold off the bench and winning that game are not great.

 

With the new rules allowing a PS player to get "elevated" for a game a couple times a year more teams are keeping only 2 QBs than

ever before.