McDermott/Beane press conference 8/27: Matt Araiza released

[Motorin']

46 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's an allegation at this point.  One that wasn't even followed-up by the SDPD.  If Araiza wasn't involved with it, what information did you want him to provide?

 

No, the SDPD concluded their nine month investigation on Aug 5th and turned all of their evidence over to the DA to determine what if any charged will be filed. 

 

The investigation includes TB's of data from search warrants they executed, recorded pretext calls with Araiza and who knows what else. 

 

Matt failing to tell the NFL, his agent and the Bills that he was under investigation by the police for allegations of rape during the draft process is the only reason the Bills organization is in the difficult situation they are in. 

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Agreed.  Maybe they were and maybe they were not.  The victim probably doesn’t know whether they were.  The SDPD is not going to share any of this with a football team.

 

August 5 LA times article, police spokesman states the case they forwarded to the DA includes 3 terabytes of digital evidence.  That's a lot of terabytes if there aren't videos/photos.

 

28 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Section C3 stole my kittens is evidence?

 

Section C3 states under oath that he had kittens, and he remembers seeing 4merper4mer putting them in a basket and walking away with them, is, in fact, evidence.  I believe it's called "eyewitness testimony" FWIW.

Edited August 28, 2022 by Beck Water

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Very disappointed in Sal M. and Jay Skurski this morning.

 

 

[Beck Water]

16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

There's no hard evidence of that. Just conjecture. Also no evidence of what was known.

 

Dude, AP has its detractors, but they do require that anything they publish be backed up by two independent primary sources.

 

Which goes quite  a bit beyond "conjecture" to most of us, even if the sources are anonymous and thus not "hard evidence".  The statement was these teams weren't interested in drafting a punter and that they didn't have details, but just uncovering such a report would be cause for a team that IS interested in drafting a punter to dig deeper and press harder.

[SectionC3]

18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

There's no hard evidence of that. Just conjecture. Also no evidence of what was known.

Take it up with Wawrow and the AP.  Challenge his reporting. (Is that "soft" evidence?)

[loyal2dagame]

17 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Two other teams figured out there was a problem with this guy.  If they didn't get it through psychic intervention, then we have work to do. 

Did teams other than the Pats* know Aaron Hernandez was a homosexual sociopathic gang member? Because New England acted like they didn't know. 

 

All teams have problems vetting players.

[78thealltimegreat]

55 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

OK. That's one person, and your opinion.

And also yours that the media isn’t hated but we will agree to disagree 

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Very disappointed in Sal M. and Jay Skurski this morning.

 

 

 

Why?  What did Sal M and Skurski tweet/say/publish?

 

Spill the Tea!

[Motorin']

8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

August 5 LA times article, police spokesman states the case they forwarded to the DA includes 3 terabytes of digital evidence.  That's a lot of terabytes if there aren't videos/photos.

 

 

Section C3 states under oath that he had kittens, and he remembers seeing 4merper4mer putting them in a basket and walking away with them, is, in fact, evidence.  I believe it's called "eyewitness testimony" FWIW.

 

That's a lot of terebytes if they are video and photos. Like a years worth of work of a professional videographer. 

[UKBillFan]

21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Two other teams figured out there was a problem with this guy.  If they didn't get it through psychic intervention, then we have work to do. 

 

Araiza went into the draft with doubts about his holding and hang time. On most mock drafts he was the third or fourth punter to be picked, and he went third. There is nothing to indicate whether the two who chose before us had a clue about any of the allegations or not.

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I don't understand your point.  The prior poster indicated that there is no evidence that Araiza participated in the alleged second encounter.  I pointed out that there is such evidence, in the form of a statement of the alleged victim.  I'm not sure where you're coming from here.  

 

36 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Sorry, but you're wrong.  The statement is evidence.  She said it happened.  Standing alone, it's sufficient to indict and to convict.  

Or they employ arguably the best punter in the NFL and had no reason to waste time vetting Araiza.

 

Say what?  An allegation isn't evidence of anything.  Much less enough to charge and convict.  Just on the face of it, her saying she was 90% unconscious during it makes anything she way unreliable. 

[Beck Water]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

Araiza went into the draft with doubts about his holding and hang time. On most mock drafts he was the third or fourth punter to be picked, and he went third. There is nothing to indicate whether the two who chose before us had a clue about any of the allegations or not.

 

I don't think @SectionC3 was referencing the two teams that picked punters before Araiza.  I think he was referencing the AP report that two teams (who did not draft punters) learned there were allegations of some sort around SDSU football players and possibly involving Araiza.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

That's a lot of terebytes if they are video and photos. Like a years worth of work of a professional videographer. 

Wouldn't you think if they had video evidence, they would have already arrested anyone involved? Not sure how that works, but I would think so...🤔

[TSOL]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

 

Say what?  An allegation isn't evidence of anything.  Much less enough to charge and convict.  Just on the face of it, her saying she was 90% unconscious during it makes anything she way unreliable. 

 

 

You know, she's saying she things she was drugged as soon as she got to the party. She's saying he handed her a drink, she drank it and started feeling... Woozy 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Why?  What did Sal M and Skurski tweet/say/publish?

 

Spill the Tea!

 

Skurski is a POS - nice work Team Virtue Signal - you enable this trash

 

 

[dancing_joker]

What’s ridiculously hypocritical is Beane saying if they knew about Azaria’s allegations he would have been removed from their draft board immediately. They knew about the allegations for 25 days before it was made public and they kept him on the team. They even cut his competition. “Trust the process”

[Big Blitz]

Just now, dancing_joker said:

What’s ridiculously hypocritical is Beane saying if they knew about Azaria’s allegations he would have been removed from their draft board immediately. They knew about the allegations for 25 days before it was made public and they kept him on the team. They even cut his competition. “Trust the process”

 

 

Haack was gone anyway

 

I don't plan on punting much 

 

They didn't rush to cut based on allegations 

 

They let the process (a correct one) play out as long as they could.

 

They weren't hoping they'd "go away."

 

Skurski is a garbage human and anyone agreeing with his nonsense can go pound sand.  

 

 

 

Plus, It's a punter.  They could afford to wait it out unlike if it was a Left Tackle.  

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don't think @SectionC3 was referencing the two teams that picked punters before Araiza.  I think he was referencing the AP report that two teams (who did not draft punters) learned there were allegations of some sort around SDSU football players and possibly involving Araiza.

 

Ah, apologies for the misunderstanding if so. Odd how Wawrow apparently found these two teams but the Bills couldn't. Or perhaps did, and Beane answered the question very carefully.

 

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Skurski is a POS - nice work Team Virtue Signal - you enable this trash

 

 

 

In other words, did the Bills expect it to be settled? Otherwise, surely the risk of it coming out was obvious.

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

No, the SDPD concluded their nine month investigation on Aug 5th and turned all of their evidence over to the DA to determine what if any charged will be filed. 

 

The investigation includes TB's of data from search warrants they executed, recorded pretext calls with Araiza and who knows what else. 

 

Matt failing to tell the NFL, his agent and the Bills that he was under investigation by the police for allegations of rape during the draft process is the only reason the Bills organization is in the difficult situation they are in. 

 

Sorry, my mistake.  So that would explain why the P's lawyer filed the civil suit: because the DA refused to file criminal charges.

 

1 minute ago, TSOL said:

You know, she's saying she things she was drugged as soon as she got to the party. She's saying he handed her a drink, she drank it and started feeling... Woozy 

 

Another allegation.  The same thing happened at my son's fraternity, although no one was sexually assaulted.

[Big Blitz]

Skurski limited replies to that tweet because he knows he's a garbage human.  

 

Coward.  Freaking coward.  

 

I hate everything about Buffalo media. 

 

Except Sal and Wawrow.  

 

All the others are losers.  LOSERS

Edited August 28, 2022 by Big Blitz