Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[CountDorkula]

1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said:

I keep seeing this repeated... I haven't seen anything that says this is true. He allegedly told her to get tested for a STD 2 weeks after their encounter.

 

Not saying this is the case, but he could have totally been unaware of the chlamydia prior to, during and after the encoutner. Then tested for it during that 2-week window and informed her of his positive test over the phone. 

 

I haven't seen one ounce of evidence stating he was knowingly chlamydia positive before the encounter.

 

I'll walk back my comments if there is proof, he was knowingly positive, but this just seems to be people jumping to conclusions. 

The fact that he was having unprotected sex with multiple women makes him an idiot, that I know. 

[Bill from NYC]

2 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

Actually your statement has nuance....in NY the age of consent IS 17 years old (as you stated). In essence, that means anyone who is 16 years of age or younger cannot provide legal consent to sexual activity.  When a person has consensual sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 17 years old, they could be charged with statutory rape. However, New York has a partial age exception for consensual sex between someone who is younger than 21 years old and a minor who is 15 or 16 (or at least less than four years older than the victim). There is no partial exception for consensual sex involving minors who are 14 years old or younger. It is very tricky with clear cut age differences.

 

TLDR: In NY a 17 year old having sex with a 21 year old is a nothing burger.

Yeah, they use a chart with lines drawn to teach this. That is why I said consensual sex with an adult. In NY, a 17 year old can sleep with a 60 year old.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

That particular conversation was about statutory rape. Please try to follow the conversation if you’re going to input yourself into it.

It is interesting because the other 2 involved were only a few months older than the victim, both were 18 at the time however. They were freshman football players. 

 

We’ve heard crazy stories about how upperclassmen football players would get girls for freshman players. A star senior player bringing a girl to a bedroom for 2 freshman sounds like one of those stories. Obviously I’m speculating.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

All seeming pretty gross to me. 

 

He hooked up with a girl, she alleges he drugged her, either way she may have been too drunk to consent.  Thats gross.

She was 17, he probably didn't know she was 17, but still kinda gross.  

He brought her into a room where his teammates allegedly raped her.  Basically delivered her to her rape.  Gross.

He very likely covered for his teammates with everyone from police to the University.  Also Gross.

 

I'd probably cut him today.  

[quinnearlysghost88]

2 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Thus he is not in jail.  Feel like someone needs to say this EVERY page of this thread!!  Guilt or innocence is in eyes of LAW, not public opinion or with private employers etc. etc. etc.

Neither is Watson. Still suspended 11 games. 

[Motorin']

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Isn't a civil trial a money grab.  He's party to the suit with others.  He's also the deepest pocket.  The bar is low in a civil trial.   If he's a little ounce at fault for what the others have done, even against his knowledge... They can squeeze money out of him. That's the game right??

 

It's also a tactic to force attention on the case so that the police and DA do their job. Is seven months a reasonable amount of time to wait for the results of a rape kit test?

[extrahammer]

 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

I keep seeing this repeated... I haven't seen anything that says this is true. He allegedly told her to get tested for a STD 2 weeks after their encounter.

 

Not saying this is the case, but he could have totally been unaware of the chlamydia prior to, during and after the encoutner. Then tested for it during that 2-week window and informed her of his positive test over the phone. 

 

I haven't seen one ounce of evidence stating he was knowingly chlamydia positive before the encounter.

 

I'll walk back my comments if there is proof, he was knowingly positive, but this just seems to be people jumping to conclusions. 

Also, you take one antibiotic pill or are given an antibiotic shot at the clinic if you have, or are suspected of having, chlamydia.

 

Its not something people just go around knowingly transmitting.. I mean, unless this dude is a sociopath.   It is something people find out they have and then call past partners over upon testing positive because they are immediately treated by the physician. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

You should because he represents the girl and they are looking pretty bad right now. If you want the truth, this isn't how it should work 

It won’t have any affect on the police investigation. In fact that concluded recently.

[UKBillFan]

The issue for me is the defence attorney is making it come across as a shakedown money grab. It may be that it’s anything but the text messages he’s posting and the stance he’s taking… the obsession with Araiza hiring a civil lawyer to take the case, perhaps Araiza prefers a criminal lawyer because he wants to be sure that he is represented by someone who knows criminal law inside and out should it get that far, rather than looking at a civil angle?
 

It feels like he’s making it easier for Araiza to defend himself and creating doubt towards the alleged victim’s true intentions. If I was the alleged victim I think I’d feel like hiring someone else to take the case on.

[ToGoGo]

12 minutes ago, Mango said:

More often than not your bolded is not remotely true in cases of sexual assault. 
 

I’m not concerned with the statutory case. The concern is that he is listed as the one who gave her a roofied drink, dropped her off in the room, and may have been part of a brutal gang rape. 
 

I am even concerned that he had the wherewithal to bring her to the room if he was “”doing the right thing”. He just banged her in the yard. She’s too drunk to give consent. 
 

The least of my concerns are the floating possibility of a statutory charge.

 

He also knowingly gave her chlamydia. Get this guy out of my city and off my football team. 
 

 

To play devil's advocate, the LAWYER talks about possible roofies and intoxication. We don't know yet how true that is. Or if there is any evidence for that. 

 

Furthermore we don't know if Araiza said he knew he had chlamydia AT THE TIME. Since she did the sting phone call 10 days after. 

 

Let's wait for this to play out. I'm particularly waiting on McDermott and Beane. 

[stevestojan]

Get rid of him. Today. 
 

Anyone giving him the “benefit of the doubt” at this point are doing so because he’s a Bill. 
 

If he turns out to be completely innocent, let some other team deal with that. 
 

Fun times when the first three results when you google “Buffalo Bills” today include the phrase gang rape… 

 

 

[CountDorkula]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

The issue for me is the defence attorney is making it come across as a shakedown money grab. It may be that it’s anything but the text messages he’s posting and the stance he’s taking… the obsession with Araiza hiring a civil lawyer to take the case, perhaps Araiza prefers a criminal lawyer because he wants to be sure that he is represented by someone who knows criminal law inside and out should it get that far, rather than looking at a civil angle?
 

It feels like he’s making it easier for Araiza to defend himself and creating doubt towards the alleged victim’s true intentions. If I was the alleged victim I think I’d feel like hiring someone else to take the case on.

Tim Graham tweeted that Arazias lawyer maybe be lying.

 

His lawyers says the NFL knew, Tim Graham is saying they didn't. 

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

All seeming pretty gross to me. 

 

He hooked up with a girl, she alleges he drugged her, either way she may have been too drunk to consent.  Thats gross.

She was 17, he probably didn't know she was 17, but still kinda gross.  

He brought her into a room where his teammates allegedly raped her.  Basically delivered her to her rape.  Gross.

He very likely covered for his teammates with everyone from police to the University.  Also Gross.

 

I'd probably cut him today.  

So you know he’s guilty of the alleged offences then? Brilliant, what’s the legal system needed for?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Also, you take one antibiotic pill or are given an antibiotic shot at the clinic if you have, or are suspected of having, chlamydia.

 

Its not something people just go around knowingly transmitting.. I mean, unless this dude is a sociopath.   It is something people find out they have and then call past partners over upon testing positive because they are immediately treated by the physician. 

 

Again - not sure why the STI piece keeps getting brought up.  He told her to get tested, thats basically what you're supposed to do when you expose someone to an STI.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I think it is more likely that he is doing this now as opposed to earlier because Araiza is now the entrenched starter for the Bills.

Again, Araiza isn’t some golden ticket. He signed his deal nearly 4 months ago. He made a few hundred thousand. He didn’t make the final roster yet. As his lawyer said, there is no money if he gets cut.

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, CountDorkula said:

Tim Graham tweeted that Arazias lawyer maybe be lying.

 

His lawyers says the NFL knew, Tim Graham is saying they didn't. 

Lying  about everything or just the NFL knowing?

[hemma]

What would be the motive for a woman in California to announce to multiple people that she was 18?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

So you know he’s guilty of the alleged offences then? Brilliant, what’s the legal system needed for?

 

Who cares, distraction city.  Cut him. 

[Captain Caveman]

It's difficult to discuss this thing without sounding like a shitbag.  With that said (and as a likely shitbag) based on the details that have come out so far (especially the recorded phone call) unless the team has some extremely exculpatory evidence, I feel he should be cut (and should have been cut last month when they found out.

This sucks.