Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He's busy arguing with random people replying to his tweets.

My bet he's sleeping like a baby right about now. Even if they are 20 minute "Chuckie Micro-Sleeps."

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Terrible if it's true, and the men involved should serve prison time if proven true. But the amount of virtue signaling on social media is unbearable. We have minimal facts so far, but anyone who says "let's hear all the facts first" gets blasted and is somehow gets cast as siding with rapists. None of us have all the facts and evidence, how are there so many judge and jurors on social media? Since when is wanting to hear all the facts calling the woman a liar? Seems like no one can wait to gather info to form their opinion, you have to speculate and scream your opinion on social media to compete for who's most virtuous.

 

I'd just like to point out here that many of us here who have said "I need to see how this plays out" and "need the facts" are not, in fact, being blasted or cast as siding with rapists.

 

So there might be some detail about HOW the "let's hear all the facts first" opinion is stated that leads to that outcome

[Patrick Duffy]

6 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

So it’s partially her fault she got too drunk at a party and was gang raped? 
 

and people wonder why rape victims don’t come forward. 

 

Are we sure she got raped? Like was it proven already or just going off her saying she was? Legit question because I honestly don't know.

 

But for sentence in bold, what if there was consent and she don't remember because she was too drunk? 

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

When it comes to talent... I be more likely to side with a punter who can make 80 yard kicks routinely than say Tom Brady.  😆... Call me cray cray... But couple that leg with Tyrod Taylor and you have a 5 SB winning streak on your hands.

 

/HalfSacasticGhostOfChuckKnoxOwnsMySoul

[Bubba Gump]

Well, Deshaun got 11 games for over 20 allegations. Araiza should get maybe half a game for 1 accusation? Is that right Mr. Goodell?

[GoBills808]

21 minutes ago, StHustle said:

It’s sad how many people here are out of touch with reality. Maybe cause most have no idea of the life of popular people and how things go. I can totally see a situation where this guy had no ill intent and things ended up going south cause of actions of his teammates. I’ve been in that position. The number of people so quick to rush to judgement and want this kids career over before it started over an allegation like this is very alarming and shows where we are at as a society. People are simply impatient and care more about how things look and sound than what the reality actuality is…Smdh.
 

Now having unprotected sex knowing you have an STD isn’t cool at all. But what rapist would inform their victim of that the next day? Or even voluntarily have a conversation with them? I’ve heard enough to be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

Browns fans have been saying exactly this for the last 3 months

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

But for sentence in bold, what if there was consent and she don't remember because she was too drunk? 

then that’s still rape in the eyes of the law I thought.  You can’t legally consent if you are that wasted that you don’t remember. But I could be wrong.

[JoPoy88]

4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

 

Are we sure she got raped? Like was it proven already or just going off her saying she was? Legit question because I honestly don't know.

 

But for sentence in bold, what if there was consent and she don't remember because she was too drunk? 

 

 

Too drunk = no consent

[Beck Water]

13 minutes ago, Believer said:

Surprised Ariaza is still around… Don’t make it complicated… Don’t get lost in the legal weeds… Facts aside, he doesn’t pass the McDermott character test… and is a distraction to the team… Have to believe Goodell was consulted on the advisability of keeping Ariaza before the Bills cut Hauck… but the story got out and the PR damage will force their hand… It’s all about the brand for Goodell… and on the season for the Bills… Gone by next week, my bet…

 

You're correct about "all about the brand" for Goodell and PR damage....

 

....on the other hand, highly talented domestic abusers like Tyreek Hill have been drafted, re-offended, and gone unpunished or had their hands slapped

 

I'm curious about the "doesn't pass the McDermott character test" conclusion, though.  I consider myself fairly naive, but I have the impression that parties with lots of drinking and hooking up going on are pretty common around college campuses with football teams.   I'd be unsurprised if, when this news broke, ~ half the team didn't clutch their privates and say "yikes, that coulda been me accused of similar once upon a time" - not the whole gang-rape thing, but a sexual encounter with a young woman who might have been a bit too drunk to consent and/or might have been under the age of consent.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Browns fans have been saying exactly this for the last 3 months

Not sure about you, but I know people who have been in he-said/she-said one time sexual situations.  
 

I don’t know anyone who’s been a serial masseuse sexual harasser. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'd just like to point out here that many of us here who have said "I need to see how this plays out" and "need the facts" are not, in fact, being blasted or cast as siding with rapists.

 

So there might be some detail about HOW the "let's hear all the facts first" opinion is stated that leads to that outcome

Meant on social media mainly twitter. That's why I actually came to this platform, much more level heads.

[billieve420]

If criminal charges are brought Araiza is probably done regardless if he is innocent or not. I am curious to hear more about this phone call that was made at the direction of the police. It states that Matt confirmed they had sex. The women asks him if they had actual sex. He then says this is Matt Araiza and he doesn’t remember what happened that night. Doesn’t make much sense based on what was reported unless he got suspicious that he was being setup.

[SDS]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

I don’t know anyone who’s been a serial masseuse sexual harasser. 

why dont you get back to us when you expand your social circle.

[GoBills808]

Just now, SCBills said:

Not sure about you, but I know people who have been in he-said/she-said one time sexual situations.  
 

I don’t know anyone who’s been a serial masseuse sexual harasser. 

Read the quote. 'benefit of the doubt', 'this is what happens to famous people' etc etc

 

I feel very comfortable staying consistent w my takes. Would love to see what some of the posters here said about Watson and the Browns

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Meant on social media mainly twitter. That's why I actually came to this platform, much more level heads.

well, not everybody. But yes! We are better than twitter (for now.)

[Nitro]

This was reported last October but the Bills drafted him?   This story is interesting.

[JoPoy88]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Read the quote. 'benefit of the doubt', 'this is what happens to famous people' etc etc

 

I feel very comfortable staying consistent w my takes. Would love to see what some of the posters here said about Watson and the Browns

apples and oranges. 1 allegation vs. 20+ (that we know of.) 

Edited August 26, 2022 by JoPoy88

[GoBills808]

Just now, JoPoy88 said:

apples and oranges. 1 allegation vs. 20+ (that we know of.) 

Whatever helps you sleep at night

[ExiledInIllinois]

13 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

Well, Deshaun got 11 games for over 20 allegations. Araiza should get maybe half a game for 1 accusation? Is that right Mr. Goodell?

 

12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Browns fans have been saying exactly this for the last 3 months

BUT... I think up thread someone pointed out that The League can NOT discipline him according to CBS due to  the incident happening before the draft.

 

Apples and oranges when comparing to Watson. 

[716]

6 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

Re-reading this, Araiza never claimed that he had sex with her.

Edited August 26, 2022 by 716
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