BillsShredder83 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: Its amazing the amount of victim shaming in this forum. And you wonder why women don't come forward. I am truly dissapointed. victim blaming, and not rushing to a mans guilt with a 1 sided story, are not the same thing! quit saying that, youre hurting victims by even sying stuff like this. i havent seen one person say anything blaming in here. unreal 1 1 1
The Wiz Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Not if it was illegally obtained; can’t be used for any purpose, and in most states an illegal recording is itself a crime. As well as two-party consent. Eleven states require two-party consent, however. In other words, everyone involved in a conversation must agree to be recorded. Those states are California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington Edited August 26, 2022 by The Wiz 1
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So did he or didn’t he admit it? YESSSS!!!! 1 1
716er Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: The Bills could easily have just cut him and said nothing about this case "We had an open competition and Matt's a great competitor who is gonna be a fine NFL punter, but we decided we're going to go with the more experienced holder and directional kicker" Exactly. This distraction is not worth a punter. Period 1 2
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: What does all this mean. Help a yolo out 1 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, mannc said: Not if it was illegally obtained; can’t be used for any purpose, and in most states an illegal recording is itself a crime. scroll up 1 1
Beck Water Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: victim blaming, and not rushing to a mans guilt with a 1 sided story, are not the same thing! quit saying that, youre hurting victims by even sying stuff like this. i havent seen one person say anything blaming in here. unreal This 1
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: This is a very short sighted opinion. People are so quick to take others rights away but if it were you in this situation and you were innocent... You'd be defending the very system of law you are currently disregarding. No it really isn't. I never suggested taking any of his rights away. I don't think he should be in prison, but he doesn't have an inalienable right to be on a football team either. It's a pretty ***** up perspective you have to have to play devil's advocate here. At a bare minimum he admitted to a felony that would make him a registered sex offender. 2
CountDorkula Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: What a great way to get back at someone you don't like. Make an accusation and sit back. Yeah I guess if you’re not worried about $1 million defamation lawsuit if you’re just completely fabricating a story and filing a false police report Edited August 26, 2022 by CountDorkula
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I mean… the dudes a punter accused of gang raping a minor….seems rather obvious to me what to do next…. Get the facts? 1 1
Beast Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) In California law enforcement is allowed to record calls in the scope of their investigation. Araiza appears to be toast on face value. I can’t imagine an attorney including that there were recorded police calls in an affidavit if there weren’t any. I guess we’ll see. Edited August 26, 2022 by Beast 1
Beck Water Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: What does all this mean. Help a yolo out I think it means both the plaintiff's lawyer and Araiza's are too intoxicated to give legal consent
mannc Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: As well as two-party consent. Eleven states require two-party consent, however. In other words, everyone involved in a conversation must agree to be recorded. Those states are California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington I assume you’re talking about a telephone call…some states require two party consent to record in-person conversations but not not phone calls…doesn’t make sense to me, but that’s the way it is.
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Is it me or do those texts imply the defence attorney wanted to settle out of court? Edited August 26, 2022 by UKBillFan 3 1
4merper4mer Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I mean… the dudes a punter accused of gang raping a minor….seems rather obvious to me what to do next…. What would you do if the exact same story came out tomorrow, but the place was Laramie and the time was 2017? The woman involved is a person and deserves justice regarding whatever happened to her. Araiza, also a person, also deserves justice…..whether that means jail time, a settlement or his employer standing by him due to innocence. The truth is what matters here, not what position the guy plays. Geez dude.
SCBills Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, mbs said: No but the principle is. If the team feels he's innocent and cut bait anyway due to the filing of a lurid allegation by a plantiffs' attorney, then that shows a lack of loyalty on the part of management. All these people saying “cut him for the culture” not realizing cutting Araiza because Bills podcasters are trying to earn Twitter social justice credits is going to potentially destroy the culture. Why would anyone want to work for an org that fires people based off allegations? Well, aside, from a handful of people here who would apparently be ecstatic to do that. 3 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: The Bills could easily have just cut him and said nothing about this case "We had an open competition and Matt's a great competitor who is gonna be a fine NFL punter, but we decided we're going to go with the more experienced holder and directional kicker" That’s what makes this so bizarre. We know the SOP of this regime. Either it’s not what we thought it was or there is more to this story.
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, StHustle said: According to his attorney, the accuser admitted to coming in already drunk and agreed to consensual sex. I say we all sit back and wait for FACTS to come out before rushing to judgement. If it was consensual and she admitted it and he didn’t know she was 17 this likely gets dropped. She just blew up her case against Araiza.
mannc Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: scroll up That could take hours. What did I miss?
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, RussellDopeland said: We can talk all we want about this organization operating with moral clarity- but whenever you're in the stadium, all you need to do is turn your head and you'll see the name "OJ Simpson"...they're not exactly perched on the moral highground. Tell me how anybody that is in current bills organization management in any way shape or form is associated with O.J. Simpson at the time you can’t persecute people forever they didn’t have anything to do with something 1
Recommended Posts