Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[CountDorkula]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

I don’t think she’s suing for money; she’s doing this to get it into the public domain.

Yeah but loyal bills fans will just say she’s trying to do it just for money because he plays for the billsYeah but loyal bills fans will just say she’s trying to do it just for money because he plays for the bills

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Again remember there are two parts in this that appear to be separate:

 

19 hooking up with JD who wound up being underage.

 

The gang rape that allegedly happened after. 
 

One can be true, both, or neither. 

[Alphadawg7]

9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

NFL front offices are hardly moral compasses

 

I would argue that the Bills are as moral as they get though.  No way they stand with a guy if they found anything damning in their investigation.  I would confidently say that 0% chance Matt is still on this team if even their investigation was inconclusive.  They clearly are confident in what they found.  So, I suggest we all wait until we know more and stop assuming the worst given there is evidence here that maybe they know a lot more about it than any of us do.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Question, why is it the victims name is sealed but not the accused? I’ve always felt that in cases such as these the names of all parties should be sealed until charges are made.

Because rapists don’t often stick to one victim; the more people who feel confident in coming forward the easier it is to get charges to stick. And it takes a lot for victims to admit to being raped, even without their names being made public.

[Johnnycage46]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

All of this has already been posted here from multiple other sources all night.....

I think someone already told him that in another post.

[hemma]

Weaponized beach chairs were much simpler.

[djp14150]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

Who knows.  But it would be in evidence at this point.  Easily discovered.

False

 

any recordings where both parties did not agree can not be used…even after being released like this.

[Beast]

14 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I assume the law is different in the US as, in the U.K., I would have thought that speaking to the press in this way would increase the likelihood of a mistrial - even if it is taken to criminal court, the defence would state that the defendant has no chance of a fair hearing because so much of one side is in the public domain, which may influence people’s opinions prior to the trial taking place.

This is hashed on in jury selection. It shouldn’t be a problem.

[RiotAct]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I would argue that the Bills are as moral as they get though.  No way they stand with a guy if they found anything damning in their investigation.  I would confidently say that 0% chance Matt is still on this team if even their investigation was inconclusive.  They clearly are confident in what they found.  So, I suggest we all wait until we know more and stop assuming the worst given there is evidence here that maybe they know a lot more about it than any of us do.

we like to believe that… I hope that after all the dust settles we don’t have strong reason to believe otherwise.

[jkirchofer]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

Because rapists don’t often stick to one victim; the more people who feel confident in coming forward the easier it is to get charges to stick. And it takes a lot for victims to admit to being raped, even without their names being made public.

She was also underage. I believe she has since made a public statement after she turned 18.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I think you have to cut him regardless of whether or not you're sure he's guilty. The accusations are possibly the worst for an active NFL player since Hernandez.

 

He's just a punter and a rookie at that. The cost of being wrong is so much higher than the value of being right.

Cut anyone who’s accused is a good way to run an organization… 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I would argue that the Bills are as moral as they get though.  No way they stand with a guy if they found anything damning in their investigation.  I would confidently say that 0% chance Matt is still on this team if even their investigation was inconclusive.  They clearly are confident in what they found.  So, I suggest we all wait until we know more and stop assuming the worst given there is evidence here that maybe they know a lot more about it than any of us do.

A couple of hours ago I would have agreed with you. Now, I’m not so sure about the morals of the Bills front office.

[RaoulDuke79]

2 minutes ago, jkirchofer said:

You have issues with court of public opinion when it comes to the accused, but have no problem when it comes to victims. "Maybe he isn't as guilty" as if any of it is ok.

Terrible 

[RussellDopeland]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Is a punter really worth this?

Nope!

[PromoTheRobot]

6 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

So the Bills are trusting the lawyer and their player over an accuser which isn't a huge surprise.

 

 

 

I have to ask: If it were Josh Allen who was accused instead of a punter, how many here would want him cut on the allegation alone?

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

False

 

any recordings where both parties did not agree can not be used…even after being released like this.

 

You think the cops, as a routine, would begin their investigation by sabotaging it?

 

Even without the recordings, the cops will attest to what they heard on the call.  

Edited August 26, 2022 by Mr. WEO

[CountDorkula]

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Cut anyone who’s accused is a good way to run an organization… 

Put him on administrative leave if you can and just send him away from the team he doesn’t need to be cut right now but he shouldn’t be around the team until resolved. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Califirnia is a two party consent state so the calls recorded can’t be used as evidence that should apply in civil cases too

 

I was thinking that might apply.  So he gets off on a technicality, at least.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Doc

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, RiotAct said:

we like to believe that… I hope that after all the dust settles we don’t have strong reason to believe otherwise.

They aren’t risking their image for a developing rookie punter. If there is evidence she’s telling the truth that he was involved in a gang rape he’s done. 

[Turbo44]

Everything about this is disgusting and sleezy including the way the plaintiff's attorney is using the public.