Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[PromoTheRobot]

I see we are litigating this online. Should be wrapped up before 10pm.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I assume the law is different in the US as, in the U.K., I would have thought that speaking to the press in this way would increase the likelihood of a mistrial - even if it is taken to criminal court, the defence would state that the defendant has no chance of a fair hearing because so much of one side is in the public domain, which may influence people’s opinions prior to the trial taking place.

Unless she’s trying to rile up the public so he just settles with her to make it all go away. A TV interview would do that. If there are inconsistencies with her story she’ll lose, she’s hoping for a settlement. I wonder how much she’s suing for? 

[Steel City Mafia]

 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Are lawyers allowed to just release /show these kinds of texts to anyone and everyone.. ? 

I don’t know what’s bothering me more the fact that I am saying that in a text form or the fact that he is releasing it

[Steel City Mafia]

 

[Beck Water]

8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

California’s Romeo and Juliet exception can change the statutory rape charge from a felony to a misdemeanor.  But it’s 3 years difference in age max. Araiza was 21 and the girl was 17.  Plus there’s everything else that is alleged to happen.

 

I don't believe that's correct.  From the link in my post to which you're replying:
 

Quote

As previously stated, California Penal Code 261.5 PC is a wobbler. That means it may be charged as either a misdemeanor or a felony.14

There are three circumstances that determine how the offense will be charged and what the potential penalties are:

If you are no more than three (3) years older than the alleged victim, violating PC 261.5 is always a misdemeanor.15

If you are more than three (3) years older than the alleged victim, the offense may be charged as either a misdemeanor or a felony.16
AND

If you are twenty-one (21) or older and the alleged victim is under sixteen (16) at the time the intercourse occurs, you also face either a misdemeanor or a felony…but the potential felony penalties are steeper than in the situation described in #2, above.17

If #2 or #3 in the above list applies…then when deciding whether to charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony, the District Attorney will consider (1) the facts of your specific case, and (2) your criminal history.

 

It sounds as though if there are less than 3 years age difference, it's always a misdemeanor.

If it's more than 3 years age difference, but the alleged victim is over 16, it can be either.

 

Now from a criminal conviction POV obviously the difference is significant, but again - Tyrell Dodson was suspended by the NFL for 6 games when he pled guilty of a misdemeanor charge.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Beck Water

[StHustle]

 

Probably posted already but not about to go through every page.

 

This makes clear about the timing. 

[BarleyNY]

Just now, djp14150 said:

What does the law define as sex?  

Very broad definition. Here is what I found.

[CountDorkula]

Just now, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Are lawyers allowed to just release /show these kinds of texts to anyone and everyone.. ? 

It depends if they were classified as privilege then they can be

[jkirchofer]

Its amazing the amount of victim shaming in this forum. And you wonder why women don't come forward. I am truly dissapointed.

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

Whats the difference between knowing when they drafted him and knowing when they cut their other “capable” punter. 
 

Obviously days on the calendar. But if they knew when they cut Haack, it implies they would have drafted him anyways because they decided to keep him on the roster when they had an out. 
 

If they knew a month ago, they knew he was going to make the news at some point. 
 

The McBeane botched this one. 

 

This doesn't really make sense.  He is on the roster and Haack is cut because they did an investigation of their own and clearly felt comfortable that he was not guilty of this accusation.  It doesn't have anything to do with draft decisions.  If this broke before the draft, he would have definitely gone undrafted until his story played out and proved his innocence and signed somewhere as a UDFA.  

 

There are reportedly a lot of witnesses, including one of her own friends who went there with her, that Araiza is innocent and wasn't even in the house at the time of the alleged incident.  So clearly the Bills are operating on the information they have, which I assure you is a lot more than any of us know at this stage, that makes them feel comfortable with keeping him on the roster.  

 

End of the day, he is a punter.  They could have easily cut him and kept Haack or signed a FA punter to handle what will likely be one of the least punting teams in the NFL this year.  

 

 

[Einstein]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well who knew any of this 90 minutes ago? Did you? I didn't. None of the media did either or we'd have heard about it before today.

 

I would be genuinely surprised if the Bills didn’t ask him if there were any potential or pending legal matters that they should know about, before the draft.

 

Therefore that leads me to a few potentials:

 

A) Araiza lied to the Bills

B) Araiza told the Bills and they drafted him anyway.

[DasNootz]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The suit alleges the cops prompted her to call and taped it.  This would be easy to prove.  It's evidence.

Wouldn’t they need a warrant for that?  California requires consent of all parties for recording. 

[extrahammer]

Doe's attorney says he ignored the offer, then contradicts himself by saying the offer is withdrawn in the text messages he just posted. 

 

 

 

[Aussie Joe]

7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Over/under on pages?  65.5

Don’t try to work in Vegas …

[scuba guy]

3 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Are lawyers allowed to just release /show these kinds of texts to anyone and everyone.. ? 

From this text should we say they are just looking to get payed

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Question, why is it the victims name is sealed but not the accused? I’ve always felt that in cases such as these the names of all parties should be sealed until charges are made.

[StHustle]

9 minutes ago, Mango said:

Whats the difference between knowing when they drafted him and knowing when they cut their other “capable” punter. 
 

Obviously days on the calendar. But if they knew when they cut Haack, it implies they would have drafted him anyways because they decided to keep him on the roster when they had an out. 
 

If they knew a month ago, they knew he was going to make the news at some point. 
 

The McBeane botched this one. 

ok so what if he wanted to pay her off cause he found out her age after the fact…and wanted to keep this hush?

 

This proves nothing is was not a good enough reason to cut him. They said they did a thorough investigation on the matter and I believe them.

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, jkirchofer said:

Its amazing the amount of victim shaming in this forum. And you wonder why women don't come forward. I am truly dissapointed.

 

Or one could be amazed at the instant social media conviction of people all the the time by other people who don't actually have all the facts or information to even form a proper opinion.  You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but we as a society lovvvvve to convict in the court of public opinion on social media the moment we get a sliver of a story.  

 

There is a lot of evidence here that maybe he isn't as guilty as the rush judgers have made him out to be given the Bills kept him after they investigated the matter and is playing tomorrow still in a meaningless preseason game.  

Edited August 26, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[Freddie's Dead]

6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well who knew any of this 90 minutes ago? Did you? I didn't. None of the media did either or we'd have heard about it before today.

 

Exactly.  FSU and Tallahassee police buried the Rapeis Winston story for months until the victim had been thoroughly discredited.  Looks like SDSU and San Diego police doing the same.  SOP in these cases.  Kobe Bryant created the blueprint.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Freddie's Dead