Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[akm0404]

Lol it’s a punter the bills are going to punt like 10 times all year. Bye Felicia. He will be cut as soon as they can get someone with a functional leg on a plane. 

[Alphadawg7]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That’s very interesting and surprising to me. They must have WAY more info than we do. I’m super wrong. 

 

The fact that the Bills, a class act organization with women in leadership and coaching, chose to release their returning punter and keep Araiza after knowing the story and investigating it, tells me there is definitely more they know at this stage.  

 

This is why I always say wait to judge after all information is truly known.  When Watson's case first broke, I was actually on Watson's side initially as the way it first unfolded felt fishy.  Just to find dozens more women come forward.  You just never know this early in a story, but the Bills have had a month to research and investigate it and still felt comfortable with not only keeping him around but weathering the "guilty by social media" storm that was inevitably coming.  

 

Don't get me wrong, if he is guilty, then he is done and needs to face prison consequences.  Just saying, I have a lot of respect for the Bills organization and can't imagine they would have cut Haack if they didn't feel confident in their findings from their own investigation into the matter.  

[Donuts and Doritos]

Obviously let there be a league/team investigation & have due process. But if it turns out there's something to this, he's gotta GO. We can't become Cleveland & excuse it away.

[wppete]

9 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Give beane and McD a little more credit than that. They may not be perfect, but I don't believe for a second they knowingly kept a rapist on the team

It will be very interesting what they will say tomorrow. A lot of questions for them I’m sure. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, djp14150 said:

I thought the report was they got it months ago.

 

 

Not per the LAT article

[Alphadawg7]

9 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Daly did win two major championships (91 PGA and 95 British Open) ......

 

And Araiza did get drafted

[Beast]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

She's already provided statements to the cops soon after the event months ago.  Clearly she's not changing her story. She's putting out there.

 

Exactly. And how do you know what she said on camera is the exact same thing she said in her statements?

 

You don't and neither do I.

 

I'm just telling you that IMO there is no good that will come from doing that interview and possibly even something that could hurt her.

 

For example, she obviously told police who was involved as multiple controlled calls were made to these suspects. Who provided those names? She said on video she has issues with her memory from the incident. 
 

I believe on face value that what she is alleging is true. I'm just saying that going on and doing a television interview is risky and could hurt her in future court proceedings.

 

Like the police love when a suspect continues to talk, defense attorney's love when victims and witnesses continue to talk in cases like these. 

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

My initial thought was this is not the Culture the Bills Stand by and will cut him Immediately.

 

However the longer this drags on and if the Bills have done their investigation , going to let him play tomorrow and with the comments of John Wawrow maybe they know something to this story that we just don’t know yet..

 

I don’t know, wasn’t expecting this on a Thursday night. 

[What a Tuel]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

lol what can they know?

 

Only thing that would be is that the recorded phone call with her is not what they claim it to be. I have a suspicion the bills didnt know about the phone call and thought it was a he said she said case and he claimed he did nothing wrong.

[Steel City Mafia]

Uh oh
 

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by Steel City Mafia

[Mango]

16 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Whats the difference between knowing when they drafted him and knowing when they cut their other “capable” punter. 
 

Obviously days on the calendar. But if they knew when they cut Haack, it implies they would have drafted him anyways because they decided to keep him on the roster when they had an out. 
 

If they knew a month ago, they knew he was going to make the news at some point. 
 

The McBeane botched this one. 

[BarleyNY]

52 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

We have one lawyer being interview by Cali news saying 3 years.

We have a law firm (I linked upthread) saying no fixed rule, but under 16 and over 21 tends to be charged as a felony.  Here's another

He was over 21, she was 17.  So it sounds as though it could go either way.

 

 

California’s Romeo and Juliet exception can change the statutory rape charge from a felony to a misdemeanor.  But it’s 3 years difference in age max. Araiza was 21 and the girl was 17.  Plus there’s everything else that is alleged to happen.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

 

The lawyer will defend Matt, the lawsuit will not. Gotta just wait for the police, none of us were there.

[djp14150]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Not per the LAT article

Except the tv story seems to imply otherwise.

 

this particular DA might have gotten assigned to the case today.

 

i don’t buy this was not known by the office.  This surfaced into the news over a month ago at least.  A few months ago thr police got evidence so DAs are usually involved early on in these things.

[Alphadawg7]

11 minutes ago, Steptide said:

This CAN'T be accurate right? 

 

 

 

Just more evidence the Bills are comfortable with what they found in regard to their investigation into the matter.  So, like I keep saying, people should stop prematurely convicting and reserve opinions and judgement until we know what the Bills believe they know.  

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Mango said:

Whats the difference between knowing when they drafted him and knowing when they cut their other “capable” punter. 
 

Obviously days on the calendar. But if they knew when they cut Haack, it implies they would have drafted him anyways because they decided to keep him on the roster when they had an out. 
 

If they knew a month ago, they knew he was going to make the news at some point. 
 

The McBeane botched this one. 

Unless they investigated and felt he’s innocent. 

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Because he’s on a team? So that also makes DeShaun Watson “Not Guilty”

 

 

Did we give Matt 250 million dollars to play the most important position in sports?

 

We'd drop this kid like a bad habit if they thought he was guilty of anything.  

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

 

Exactly. And how do you know what she said on camera is the exact same thing she said in her statements?

 

You don't and neither do I.

 

I'm just telling you that IMO there is no good that will come from doing that interview and possibly even something that could hurt her.

 

For example, she obviously told police who was involved as multiple controlled calls were made to these suspects. Who provided those names? She said on video she has issues with her memory from the incident. 
 

I believe on face value that what she is alleging is true. I'm just saying that going on and doing a television interview is risky and could hurt her in future court proceedings.

 

Like the police love when a suspect continues to talk, defense attorney's love when victims and witnesses continue to talk in cases like these. 

 

Her attorney  clearly didn't;t share your concerns, knowing what they know and what she has said.   She isn't going rogue, safe to say.

 

What she has done is put this out there to the jury pool---it's a sharp move on the part of her and her father.  

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

 

Exactly. And how do you know what she said on camera is the exact same thing she said in her statements?

 

You don't and neither do I.

 

I'm just telling you that IMO there is no good that will come from doing that interview and possibly even something that could hurt her.

 

For example, she obviously told police who was involved as multiple controlled calls were made to these suspects. Who provided those names? She said on video she has issues with her memory from the incident. 
 

I believe on face value that what she is alleging is true. I'm just saying that going on and doing a television interview is risky and could hurt her in future court proceedings.

 

Like the police love when a suspect continues to talk, defense attorney's love when victims and witnesses continue to talk in cases like these. 

I assume the law is different in the US as, in the U.K., I would have thought that speaking to the press in this way would increase the likelihood of a mistrial - even if it is taken to criminal court, the defence would state that the defendant has no chance of a fair hearing because so much of one side is in the public domain, which may influence people’s opinions prior to the trial taking place.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

6 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Because he’s on a team? So that also makes DeShaun Watson “Not Guilty”

The cases are not the same and Watson was found guilty of nothing technically.

Edited August 26, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy