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2 hours ago, bill8164 said:

Why a civil suit right after he wins job and seeing the Bills cut Haack ? This happened over a year ago and no criminal charges but a civil suit,  if he was involved and did this then the police should have been involved and he should have been charged. 

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

That doesn’t matter, the fact she was underage is still by law statutory rape. 


i don’t know California law but there are exceptions such as meeting the person in a bar drinking alcohol you can assume they are 21.

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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

 


Damn. They must really trust his lawyer….

 

Could have just kept Haack and said they wanted a veteran.

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2 hours ago, Pasaluki said:

No punter is worth this. Remove him from the team and if it's false he can sue the girls family for defamation but we are in a Super Bowl window and a punter isn't worth anything right or wrong...

How a about defensive end? Quarterback? It’s either not worth it for everyone or no one….

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13 minutes ago, 716er said:


I’d love to agree with this but I don’t understand how the most hyped punter I can recall prior to the draft (with stats to back that up) was not the first punter off the board. 
 

He also lasted until round 6. 
 

There is plenty of history of ***** kickers and punters drafted in the top 3 rounds. Just doesn’t add up. I think teams knew.

 

He actually wasn't the top punter on many teams' boards.  Media hype...fan hype...etc in no way equates to actual draft study and research.  More teams had Stout as the top punter on the board, not Araiza, and some had him lower than 2.  All Araiza was confirmed good at was kicking long, that's not the name of the game in the NFL.  John Daily could always hit the golf ball long, but he wasn't as good at the other parts of his game.  

 

Araiza got all the hype because there is literally nothing at all exciting about a punter, so when people saw one with a catchy nickname and booming kicks that long, it created a hoopla over him.  But punting in the NFL is all about hang time and precision, not distance.  The distance is great, but without the other 2 you won't be a Punter very long in the NFL.  

 

So given he had several areas to prove himself on and work on, he was not the top punter in the draft, just the most talked about because he was the only one who wasn't boring.  He was the most intriguing though, just unproven on if he can deliver hang time and accuracy.

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Posted
1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

And timmy beats johnny to the news break. Seems stupid for the Bills to release Haack 2 weeks before they had to unless they think they could pick up a punter off the street who's just as good as Haack

 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

That’s very interesting and surprising to me. They must have WAY more info than we do. I’m super wrong. 

They have to have more info. 
They would of cut him immediately tonight if this just dropped on them with no knowledge or heads up from him or the agent. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said:

How a about defensive end? Quarterback? It’s either not worth it for everyone or no one….


Why? Again he is a punter lol 

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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 


That tallies with my thinking - they found out on or around 30th July.

 

So why keep him and cut Haack? I mean, to be blunt, perhaps they were very unimpressed with Haack and decided they could pick up an upgrade on him via waivers but…

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Maybe. I’ll give it a minute but something does not add up here. 


Agree give it some time but the first reaction does not look good on McBeane and the culture. This could spiral out of control in the locker room and the season. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

Note that while described as "a minor", the alleged victim was then 17 years old, which is above the age of consent anywhere.

 

Google "age of consent in California", and it comes up 18.

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I haven't really looked too much into this, so I can't say where I put my flag. But when I played college ball, we had a team mate who was at our party for the whole night, (the whole night, because we were with him the entire time and he slept on the couch). a couple weeks later, the coaches informed us that he had been removed from the team, because his then girlfriend accused him of rape the same night as the party... which she was not at. Apparently they had spat a couple days after the party, and she didn't want to break up, so this was her way of getting back at him. To everyone on the outside, he looked like a monster, but to everyone who knew him and the situation, it was very very sad. 

 

I am not saying this is Araiza's situation, but there have been countless situations of false accusations and real rape situations. I would like to see real evidence before I start throwing stones.

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4 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

Lots of circumstantial details in this. If they have those phone calls, he's a dead man.

 

The Bills can't just ignore this.

 

The suit claims the cops were telling her to make the calls as they listened in and recorded

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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

So initially this was also my take.

But at the time, I was not aware of California's statutory rape law, which sets the age of consent at 18.

So it doesn't matter if she consented or not or was too inebriated to give consent or not


Statutory rape with consent being given would still be treated differently to outright rape, though.

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