billsfan89 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 I hope whatever happens the truth is found out and justice is served. 2 1
Mattymafia Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Fairly confident this is a crime in itself. If the phone call of him is what it sounds like, he's toast. It sounds like he said that more because she had sex with multiple people at one party. 1
Beast Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Really not approp My comment or his that this stuff happens at every high school or college party? Edited August 26, 2022 by Beast 1
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Matt_In_NH said: The phone call info is pretty damning......I am not sure this guy will be a Bill. I do think the phone call right now is based on their account of it, they don't have the recording(the police obviously do).
CountDorkula Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I will wait for the full story before I react or form some sort of judgement. Clearly, if he is guilty of this, he is done and should be done and face criminal charges. But as bad as it looks on the preliminary story, there is still the fact it didn't come out sooner, the Bills may have had prior knowledge and did their own research, and there is not yet a criminal charge...so let's see how this plays out before we decide the outcome. I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. 1 1
Buffalo03 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beck Water said: He was 21. Did she tell him she was 17? She could have said she was older 1
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I will wait for the full story before I react or form some sort of judgement. Clearly, if he is guilty of this, he is done and should be done and face criminal charges. But as bad as it looks on the preliminary story, there is still the fact it didn't come out sooner, the Bills may have had prior knowledge and did their own research, and there is not yet a criminal charge...so let's see how this plays out before we decide the outcome. Well, in terms of public perception, 27 pages in two hours should give you an indication...
Dick_Cheney Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mattymafia said: It sounds like he said that more because she had sex with multiple people at one party. Ahhh, so he's a rapist with a conscience. Edited August 26, 2022 by Dick_Cheney
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: Get him off this team. Seriously. Hes a ***** punter. 1
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Beast said: The article says the two other named suspects have attorney's. Araiza must also have one. At least you would think so. How could the Bills not know about this? They do. They did. And they did their own investigation. And he's still on the team despite having a competent alternative. They get the benefit of the doubt right now from me because I have no doubt they'd cut him if they felt he did something wrong. Something happened with the girl no doubt. But there seems to be a lot more to this - that as of right now and I don't know maybe in an hour they cut him - but as of right now this organization owned and ran by a female in deciding what do with a punter who while potentially awesome is still a freaking punter that we can replace and forget he ever existed......he's still on the team. That tells me we probably need to let this play out. Edited August 26, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 5
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, CountDorkula said: I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. Being from the other side of the pond, I don’t know how the college would have the power to limit and restrict a police investigation? The police themselves being corrupt and protecting famous (local) athletes I can understand, but the college being able to hold things back?
Turbo44 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: Get him off this team. Or let the truth play out, even with as bad as it initially looks 1
ToGoGo Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Turbo44 said: wonder what warhow (spelling) will say? He'll say whatever it takes to get his Pulitzer prize. Just the other day he was trying cause a scandal based on lack of female artists playing on the speaker during practice. 1 2 1 1
Mango Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, stevewin said: If for some reason he is not released right away, while this plays out at a minimum it has got to result in some real awkwardness in the locker room - and also possible distraction. Players and coaches being asked at PCs about the accused rapist punter.... geez If he isn’t released I think the Bills try and keep themselves away from punting and have Keenum/Barkley holding. He should be released. None of this is worth it. I think he should be charged with a crime. Even if innocent it’s not worth it to have him on a roster that’s trying to go to the super bowl. 2 1
Beck Water Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, CountDorkula said: I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. Where do you get the school was not cooperating?
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: They do. They did. And they did their own investigation. And he's still on the team despite having a competent alternative. They get the benefit of the doubt right from me because I have no doubt they'd cut him if they felt he did something wrong. Something happened with the girl no doubt. But there seems to be a lot more to this - that as of right now and I don't know maybe in an hour they cut him - but as of right now this organization owned and ran by a female in deciding what do with a punter who while potentially awesome is still a freaking punter that we can replace and forget he ever existed......he's still on the team. That tells me we probably need to let this play out. Why do you assume the Bills knew before cutting Haack?
Andy1 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It willtellsomeofthestory. You can have sex with someone and not rape them. There will be a lot of pieces to this puzzle that tell the stor. He is 21, she was 17. That is a problem and a crime. 1
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