Big Blitz Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Lost said: Very odd wording by the Bills PR team. It makes it seem as if they knew of the incident for some time and have investigated it, even if they just found out as we did. So they knew - I'm guessing at the earliest 1 month ago - because they conducted their own examination of the matter.... And he made the team. No way they keep him if they felt he was at minimum in the freaking room where it happened. I hope justice is done for this girl. I also hope Matt is not guilty of anything including being anywhere near where this happened. The Bills keeping him says to me they have to believe he did absolutely nothing that's alleged. 1
Dick_Cheney Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 This ***** sucks and there's absolutely no way he stays on the team. The optics on this are horrible, it's more than likely more true than not true, and after the Watson fiasco, there's just no way this blows over. This is a gut punch, and what happened to the victim is terrible and what's most important. Just awful. 1 1
Rubes Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: You one of the Twitter people that looks to get offended by everything? You have almost no info to make that determination. Let's not rush to judge. Talk about rushing to judge. Just my opinion,, but highly doubtful Beane and company didn’t know about this before he was drafted. In our toxic society, why invite that? And if he didn’t know about it, that seems pretty bad, too. From the sound of it, it’s not like this is completely out of the blue.
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: So they knew - I'm guessing at the earliest 1 month ago - because they conducted their own examination of the matter.... And he made the team. No way they keep him if they felt he was at minimum in the freaking room where it happened. I hope justice is done for this girl. I also hope Matt is not guilty of anything including being anywhere near where this happened. The Bills keeping him says to me they have to believe he did absolutely nothing that's alleged. Please be right.
Mr. WEO Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Yea that part is a tough one. If she told people at the party she was a freshman he has an excuse but she says she told people she was in high school. Not knowing her age is not a legal defense. 1
TheBrownBear Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: For people who view the players as cogs in their favorite machine, not much. For those that actually care about the human element. A lot. If he’s guilty, cut him and let him deal with the civil and potential criminal suit. If he’s not.. well, who needs to file a criminal suit when you can simply ruin someone’s life by doing this? Problem is, "guilt" isn't going to be determined for many months. At a minimum, he immediately needs to be suspended/placed on the exempt list and we need to sign a new punter tomorrow. Say the Bills sit on their hands and let it play out, come week 3 criminal charges are filed against Matt and we are scrambling to replace him on the fly. Just get ahead of it asap and put all the negative press to rest. 1 1
1ManRaid Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: well considering there is already an alleged police recording of Araiza admitting to having sex with her and telling her she should get checked for an STD. Which also you can be sued for Knowingly giving someone an STD Where does it say he knowingly gave her an STD? Admitting to having sex with someone is not inherently illegal, neither is recommending someone get tested after having had sex (consensual or not) with multiple people.
chongli Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I found that out and apologized. I guess I should delete my post. Oops! I didn't read this long thread in its entirety. No problem! [EDIT: I just deleted my post above too!] Edited August 25, 2022 by chongli
LabattBlue Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: It doesn’t seem like any other way right now other than he’s about to get cut shortly. You think mcd is going to sit there and answer 100 questions each presser about the punter now? I can almost see the smoke coming off his head. This. There is no way they want this hanging over the head of the team with the season opener around the corner. He should be cut ASAP. 3
Iverwig Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, NY Nole said: I find this not believable as an outside observer. What High School student goes to a college party and announces she is a high school student. That happens quite often.
1ManRaid Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Ugh! DNA will tell the story. Not as much of one as you assume. All it necessarily tells is that he had sex with her. He already admitted to that. It doesn't necessarily tell that he raped her.
UKBillFan Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: It doesn’t seem like any other way right now other than he’s about to get cut shortly. You think mcd is going to sit there and answer 100 questions each presser about the punter now? I can almost see the smoke coming off his head. And the players too - potential Super Bowl year and the press conferences will be about the potential rapist. Least we can do is put him on the exempt list and ban him from training with the team until the decision is made by the DA but that should have been done, at the very latest, as part of the PR statement.
Beast Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I would imagine the fact that it was non-consensual would factor into any sentencing (if it were a criminal case), too, right? Yes it would. Big time. 1
CountDorkula Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: Where does it say he knowingly gave her an STD? Admitting to having sex with someone is not inherently illegal, neither is recommending someone get tested after having had sex (consensual or not) with multiple people.
JerseyBills Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 The saddest part is he'll be picked up immediately if we let him go. Even if this turns out to be true 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Ugh! DNA will tell the story. This happened almost a year ago. I would think he would have been arrested by now if his DNA implicated him, no? 2
Beast Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Ugh! DNA will tell the story. There is not always DNA.
hemma Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 An especially alarming part of the story is that he took her to some of his friends, like a toy or a bag of donuts. 1
ColoradoBills Posted August 25, 2022 Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, chongli said: Oops! I didn't read this long thread in its entirety. No problem! No problem. I did delete it. No sense having other replying to my mistake. I try to be responsible for my content. 1
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