The Red King Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. 2 2 1
thewookie1 Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? Exactly what it sounds like.... what do you want him to do; go all Rex Ryan and start spouting nonsense? He's obviously distressed over the situation, and he is not in any position to take sides due to the potential fallout regardless.
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Matt araiza is a rookie punter, he is young and AT BEST put himself in a terrible position and made some dumb decisions that could have derailed his professional career With that said why are fans/people so upset he might get cut because of this? being cut might be the best out come for the guy Because he’ll be cut due to the position he plays rather than the actions he has reportedly undertaken. If I could believe a rookie first round QB would be treated the same way I’d more than willingly accept it. So many people saying “he’s just a punter…” If he mislead the Bills he deserves to be cut. In fairness, my first post yesterday was questioning the front office decision making in cutting Haack and keeping Araiza when this was running in the background. And the front office should have fronted up before now - not released a mess of a statement then throw McDermott to the wolves.
Bimmer323i Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Simon said: How about a deal? If anybody is arrested and charged for raping that teenage girl, I toss you out of here. If a bloodied, bruised, gang-raped teenage girl turns out to be the B word you claim, you can stay. Deal? I’m not sticking up for the guy my point is is this happened what a year ago and it didn’t seem to be a big deal… it took the school 7 months before they even launched an investigation and now he’s in the nfl and prolly has a little money and now it’s a big deal… A civil lawsuit… 1
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 Put him on an inactive list that keeps him away from the team off the field and out of a bill’s uniform for right now until this plays out
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, benderbender said: The PR staff needs to be fired. It is what you pay them for. Get in front. Cut bait early. It's been said by so many, but it is a punter. A rookie at that. Even if he nets 60 yards for his entire career, it is not worth the cancer. Even if they slept on it last night and cut him this morning, we would at least look like we took it seriously. How dare they send McD out there alone to explain hesitation and incompetence above his pay grade. I actually feel that part of it might be that they, or someone, saw him as an important player actually - yes a punter but a good one at that. I wonder whether that coloured something somewhere, perhaps together with them not all knowing the full picture or that there were serious grounds.
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? What in Gods name do you expect the man to say? Get a clue man. You obviously have no idea what it would be like to be in that position. Nor, will you ever hopefully. 2 2 1
Roundybout Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. The fact that this situation even is ongoing is damaging to the team. 1 3
bobobonators Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. At this point it’s not about guilt or innocence. Its about what’s best for the team. Let the courts decide guilt or innocence. Let the Bills play football. Cut the punter. 1 1
london_bills Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: He’s def gone. McDermott is beside himself and probably didn’t know. If beane knew and didn’t tell him wonder if that relationship is strained. I don’t know but Beane could be in big trouble here This is what I thought. Mcd seemed pissed about something deeper than cutting a player.
muppy Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Are you serious? He evaded every question. How many times did he say "we have work to do" Wtf does that even mean ? I think he had a huge debacle to deal with today as well as game prep for a preseason game. So No I don't expect he to be at the top of his chat game in retrospect. I think he is above all a man of empathy for all involved in this mess. That is why Im proud of him tonight. He's a human being not just a football coach. Edited August 27, 2022 by muppy 1 3 4
Simon Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Bimmer323i said: I’m not sticking up for the guy my point is is this happened what a year ago and it didn’t seem to be a big deal… it took the school 7 months before they even launched an investigation and now he’s in the nfl and prolly has a little money and now it’s a big deal… A civil lawsuit… Maybe you ought to do some homework before you come in here talking ***** on teenage gang rape victims. 1 1 1
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. Agreed. In both directions.
Draconator Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: You are on quite the power trip here arnt you? You need Hooked on Phonics... ARNT ARNT ARNT 2
ghostwriter Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. How many pages of this thread have you read exactly? 2
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: He’s def gone. McDermott is beside himself and probably didn’t know. If beane knew and didn’t tell him wonder if that relationship is strained. I don’t know but Beane could be in big trouble here Really? Beane? Come on…parties involved likely lied to the Bills. 1
MiltonWaddams Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) My opinion is that the Bills intend to cut this guy. But, they need to go through the league and the NFLPA to make sure they do it properly. McDermott sure looked like he was ready to cut him and leave him in Charlotte. Edited August 27, 2022 by MiltonWaddams 2 1
The Red King Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: How many pages of this thread have you read exactly? All of it. I've been posting throughout. You?
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Red King said: It is remarkable how many people immediately assume guilt, and then get upset at people who refuse to do the same and actually wait for facts before deciding. Speaking for myself I just don’t think it’s worth the distraction. He may eventually clear his name but I’d rather have our HC and team focused on LA instead of having to answer for our punter. Edited August 27, 2022 by Bangarang 2 1 1
BillsSbSoon Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Really? Beane? Come on…parties involved likely lied to the Bills. Probably but we don’t know that yet either. 1
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