par73 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I hope he kicks good tonight Not playing tonight, per GR.
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: If I'm going to make the case that justice should apply equally, regardless of station, I'm not using this case as my north star. We already live in a world where that patently isn't true, and it's also likely a HUGE part into why we don't have all the facts. His status as a big time athlete and a college that worked with a police department to bury a lead is the exact type of injustice you should be railing against. He's not the victim here. So now you are accusing the college and the police of committing crimes. Should they all be fired immediately as well and then rehired if their innocence is proven? Seems like folks accused of a crime need to be fired immediately from their job 1
GolfandBills Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I wonder if the NFLPA is also involved with the whole issue. If they cut him; the NFLPA would file a grievance since its a Civil Lawsuit not a Criminal Case They can’t do anything about it. Happened while he was in college
CapeBreton Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Some of you are really showing your true colors by the side you’re picking here. And yes, you are picking a side; this isn’t a court of law, he isn’t owed due process to play football. And even if it were a court, statutory rape is a felony. But keep pulling for a god damned punter. Unbelievable. One of the better tweets: Did they cut the punter yet? I can’t believe a Super Bowl favorite is going to let a punter be a dark cloud over the team. Nobody here knows what happened so impossible to pick a side. You don’t know anything either but you’ve concluded he’s guilty? Bills knew the situation and still cut their other punter, they likely know something we don’t.
1ManRaid Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I wonder if the NFLPA is also involved with the whole issue. If they cut him; the NFLPA would file a grievance since its a Civil Lawsuit not a Criminal Case As far as I know, the league itself can't punish him (happened in college and not subject to league rules), but the team can still cut him for just about any (non discriminatory) reason.
ALF Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 I just hope the hospital rape test was done in time and she did not wash away the evidence. I feel very sorry for the young girl and want those responsible in prison. 2 1
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DanInUticaTampa said: So now you are accusing the college and the police of committing crimes. Should they all be fired immediately as well and then rehired if their innocence is proven? Seems like folks accused of a crime need to be fired immediately from their job Oh, I'm not just accusing them now, I've been doing it since like page 14. It's a fact that the college did not alert the campus of the investigation. You'll also never see me campaign for the police to keep their jobs under any circumstance. Edited August 26, 2022 by BullBuchanan 2
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: 11 days. Very well could be in response to being raped by 3 dudes, or mat getting tested because of unprotected encounter, and finding out that way. Totally possible she gave it to him if its the later, we'll never know That's what he allegedly told her - is that normally what you'd say to an almost certainly unrecognizable phone number and you were aware you did something to the girl
Augie Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, djp14150 said: have you ever been accused of something you did not do? Does studying for a test in high school count? 2
thewookie1 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, GolfandBills said: They can’t do anything about it. Happened while he was in college The NFL can't suspend him but the NFLPA can go after the Bills because he is currently a player in the NFL on an NFL contract and as such a member of the PA. The Cutting would be now, not back then.
AuntieEm Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Unless Araiza's DNA is already in the system from another crime, or he volunteers for a DNA analysis, it wouldn't matter if there was DNA left behind. The police never demanded a DNA sample to compare it to, and a Civil court won't require it, so that part won't really matter. Also, there were 3 men involved, and there's a good chance not every one left something behind. I'd think it would be little chance every man that had intimate contact didn't leave something behind. If this were a gang rape then they aren't being particularly careful and if there were any date rape drugs involved they likely have done similar acts previous to this instance. There's no accurate known number of how many guys participated. Edited August 26, 2022 by AuntieEm
gobills404 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: No need to deflect. I’m just trying to assess your expertise in this area. Or lack of expertise, as the case apparently is. Coming from the guy that thinks it’s professional to interact with pornstars online while representing yourself and your work. Your credibility is long gone my guy.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 I think they already cut him based on this. 1 1
Tanoros Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: If I'm going to make the case that justice should apply equally, regardless of station, I'm not using this case as my north star. We already live in a world where that patently isn't true, and it's also likely a HUGE part into why we don't have all the facts. His status as a big time athlete and a college that worked with a police department to bury a lead is the exact type of injustice you should be railing against. He's not the victim here. Quite frankly, neither you or I know who commuted those acts against that girl. It’s very possible she doesn’t even know. Due process is of the utmost importance at times like these, clearly that’s how the Bills organization feels too. We all know they are run very well, and look how they are handling this situation, they are exercising due process just as they should be. It’s really quite simple. Also, just because not everyone is treated the same in the world, is not an excuse to treat others differently. We need to be that which we wish to experience, otherwise things inevitably turn to anarchy. 2
K D Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: If the don't point, they will have to punt. That should definitely be a rule!
nedboy7 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Lot of people on here that probably are better off not commenting. Not every opinion needs to be shared. This is an awful situation at many levels.
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