Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

It's being reported that the Bills'  organization has known about this for a month. Why the "haack" did they release Matt Haack.

 

That's the big question. You have to wonder what their investigation turned up to decide to keep him on.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

I don’t see a lot of people defending him. But I do see a lot of people who would like more information other than her lawyers side of the incident. He’s a rookie, a 6th round pick, nobody really cares if he’s on the team or not. 
also, there are no charges. Just a lawsuit so far. However it’s a little weird you can call all these names and question character but the only info you have is also from her lawyer. 

Nobody is living or dying on the Punter making the team, I think it's more a combination of people thinking we should wait for more info before just firing the kid and trusting/trying to understand why the team who we generally have a lot of faith in seems to be rolling the dice on this.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, gobills404 said:

Which is exactly why his unprofessional behavior is so irresponsible

Araiza’s lawyer went on local news and called the victim a liar. How else do you respond? Obviously this guy doesn’t care about how he’s perceived, he’s doing what he feels is best for his client. Right now the more attention and the more it’s talked about is definitely helping his client.

[Rc2catch]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Have you been on Twitter yet? Hoo-boy! 

No I check news on there but almost always avoid comment sections. I can barely handle this place and it’s moderated quite well imo. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, gobills404 said:

Which is exactly why his unprofessional behavior is so irresponsible

How is this unprofessional?  What’s the goal?  At bottom, probably justice.  And in this instance, justice might have been a cash transfer that made the victim feel whole (or at least less unwhole).  Araiza’s attorney apparently attempted to call what he thought was a bluff.  Turns out it might not have been a bluff, and justice may now be ruining the guy who someone believes ruined her/their daughter.  

 

I’ll get back to the point that if Araiza is not guilty of a crime and he would like to keep his job, then he needs to get someone speaking effectively on his behalf ASAP.  Give the Bills PR cover to keep him.  Otherwise, he’s relying on the strength of the Bills to allow this, from his perspective, to hopefully blow over.  At some point (and I think we’re getting close to being there), it’s not worth the aggravation to keep this guy around. 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

And this is what grates with me - if it was a rookie first round QB the risk would be a fair one to pay? The decision should be based on the actions, not the role on the team.

 

I mean the distraction itself, like if the punter had any controversy, or baggage whatsoever. His just happens to be of the worst variety.

 

 

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, BarleyNY said:

So some crafty 17 year old high schooler’s big plan was to go to a party, bang a punter and a bunch of his teammates, then immediately claim she was raped so that she might get a settlement from the punter if he got drafted half a year later even though her accusations could reasonably derail his career?  That’s what people are convincing themselves happened here?  SMDH

Crafting hypotheticals for others and then outraging yourself at the conclusions is not a productive way to have a discussion.

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Have you been on Twitter yet? Hoo-boy! 

This applies to literally any topic.

[hemma]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Have you been on Twitter yet? Hoo-boy! 

Have you noticed any Bills players chirping about this?

I deleted my acct awhile ago and can’t search.

[Ta111]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

FYI, I agree with you that we should not be making sweeping assumptions about the plaintiff based on her choice of attorneys.  She and her family might not have been well-positioned to evaluated the quality of their representation.  Her attorney might be a mash-up of Lionel Hutz and Saul Goodman, and she still might be telling the truth about everything.

Agreed, we shouldn’t be making sweeping assumptions about either side of this without facts. Our society is surely in trouble if we do. There have so many social media allegations in the past few years that have totally false or highly misleading that we need to let the facts sort themselves out.

[What a Tuel]

6 minutes ago, NyBob85 said:

We live in the world of "at-will employment". Employers can fire you for pretty much anything they want to besides your race, sex, or creed and even then they can just make something up if they really wanted you gone for those reasons as well. That's been the reality that most workers have had to face in this country for ages, it's just that until recently it was only applied to workers who were a bit too "uppity" or "troublesome" or talked about things like better pay or working conditions or unionizing, and male employees who committed sexual harassment (to say nothing of full-blown rape) were routinely ignored.

 

I agree that big businesses being able to summarily dismiss employees and ruin their livelihoods on a whim is an earmark of a dystopian society, but it didn't just magically become dystopian in the last few years just because it started specifically happening to men accused of heinous sexual behavior. 

 

I don't disagree, IIRC I think that the OP i replied to implied that a simple tarnishing of the brands reputation should be good enough for dismissal irregardless of any facts. It is an unfortunate reality that we face this and that snap judgements based on limited facts are thought to be a good thing.

 

I do think we don't need the distraction and for the good of the Bills org they should cut him and not deal with it but that makes me guilty of the above, so my take is bias. In the end I hope she gets justice based on the facts of the situation and not because of public opinion.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

🤔

 

 

[UKBillFan]

Neither attorney in this case are coming across well. Perhaps the Bills should get their own attorney involved.

Edited August 26, 2022 by UKBillFan

[ALF]

They need to interview the girl's friends who took her home , why not direct to hospital , what she told them and her condition.

[Yobogoya!]

2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

The Plaintiff's Lawyer, comes off as a sleze, on Twitter...

 

More than just a sleaze. 

 

He texted Araiza before any charges or lawsuits had been filed. An opposing lawyer texted a defendant directly. You can't tell me that's SOP by any means. 

[Fleezoid]

 

Like a locomotive to 1000.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Fleezoid

[What a Tuel]

5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

So some crafty 17 year old high schooler’s big plan was to go to a party, bang a punter and a bunch of his teammates, then immediately claim she was raped so that she might get a settlement from the punter if he got drafted half a year later even though her accusations could reasonably derail his career?  That’s what people are convincing themselves happened here?  SMDH

 

I am not sure people are arguing that was the plan. I think most people believe something happened that night but that the Araiza situation and the gang rape situation are not necessarily linked despite the civil suit claiming as such, but the civil suit was filed in July I believe after Araiza was drafted which aims to link the two events together. That is peoples doubt. Pulling Araiza into the civil suit to include someone with money.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

Neither attorney in this case are coming across well. Perhaps the Bills should get their own attorney involved.

 

Why would the Bills get legally involved at all?

 

Maybe we should just stop judging the legitimacy of the case by the lawyers' behavior.

[Believer]

I want to hear from Kim Pegula… Brandon Beane… and Sean McDermott… Speak up…

[CNYfan]

I am not getting much work done today.