What a Tuel Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: Ok so the defense never gave a #... so that is even weirder the chronological order was confusing... They ain't settling which means their confident Matt didn't do it, or the think they win the court of public opinon. Maybe the defense has solid reason to believe Matt is guilty and it will be even more painful set by the civil suit Why not present a settlement number, this is a civil suit, not a criminal suit here... You can go big $$$ if you believe you have facts right and then can apply the pressure. Right. That is what is making people criticize the lawyer for posting this as if it helps their case. They clearly were asking for a settlement despite saying "they ignored it". So now he looks like he is trying to angle to win public opinion but it falls flat bc he outed himself.
1ManRaid Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: What is virtuous? Plying young girls with alcohol, having group “sex”, and knowingly giving a person an STD, which he said on tape. No, he didn't admit to that. He suggested she get tested, a completely rational suggestion for someone who sleeps with random men at parties and (consensual or not) just had sexual contact with a number at once. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: No. Read the whole text thread HER lawyer posted. It clearly shows that the plaintiff was seeking a settlement and Araiza's lawyer said they would never settle. The plaintiffs lawyer then threatened that Araiza will regret that "they will do what they always do and litigate it civilly then". At some point the defendent's lawyer said "Araiza's parents asked me to ask you about a number" which the defendent's lawyer THEN ignored. A lot of people are going after this guy but he’s a career attorney fighting for victims of sexual misconduct.
HomeskillitMoorman Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: A lot of people are going after this guy but he’s a career attorney fighting for victims of sexual misconduct. He's not representing himself well in this specific instance though 1
SCBills Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Wait he had sex with her knowing he had an STD? Or he found out about it after? If it's the former I'd probably cut him on that alone. Very likely he found out about it after. If this is even about him. Chlamydia is wildly common and is treated immediately by the attending physician when you test positive or have been exposed. It’s not something people are generally knowing they have until told they were exposed or w symptoms. Edited August 26, 2022 by SCBills 1
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Believer said: Reported Ariaza flew with the team to Carolina… so appears he will play… Have to think allegations against him will come up during the broadcast, so some Bills rep may respond… They'll probably just cover what's already been said here real quick.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Wait he had sex with her knowing he had an STD? Or he found out about it after? If it's the former I'd probably cut him on that alone. How about he gave alcohol to someone he thought was 18? so many layers to this.
Rc2catch Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: Wait he had sex with her knowing he had an STD? Or he found out about it after? If it's the former I'd probably cut him on that alone. Nobody knows, as with most of this. They are just stating it as facts. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: He's not representing himself well in this specific instance though His client went from being ignored and silenced by local police/university to the story being the top headline of the weekend. I'd say he's doing fine by her. If he looks a little silly in the meantime, whatever. 1
NyBob85 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, What a Tuel said: I mean if you want to live in a dystopian world where mega corps take away your livelihood because it affected their reputation and not based on truth then sure. We live in the world of "at-will employment". Employers can fire you for pretty much anything they want to besides your race, sex, or creed and even then they can just make something up if they really wanted you gone for those reasons as well. That's been the reality that most workers have had to face in this country for ages, it's just that until recently it was only applied to workers who were a bit too "uppity" or "troublesome" or talked about things like better pay or working conditions or unionizing, and male employees who committed sexual harassment (to say nothing of full-blown rape) were routinely ignored. I agree that big businesses being able to summarily dismiss employees and ruin their livelihoods on a whim is an earmark of a dystopian society, but it didn't just magically become dystopian in the last few years just because it started specifically happening to men accused of heinous sexual behavior.
JoPoy88 Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: A lot of people are going after this guy but he’s a career attorney fighting for victims of sexual misconduct. No one’s questioning his mission, just his methods. 3 2
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 It’s pretty easy to tell all the individuals who have their own skeletons in their closets coming out to defend this piece of trash. Why DEFEND Araiza at all? To silence any other women who have the courage to come forward? You don’t know anything except charges have been levied. What grounds do you have to defend such abhorrent accusations? Every stupid emoji, every baseless defense on indefensible actions speaks volumes to your own personal character, and which virtues you hold true, if any. If any of you taking the stance of blindly defending this dbag just because he he’s got a Buffalo on his helmet, as your wives what they think, or daughters, or mothers.. 2 1 1
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, JoPoy88 said: No one’s questioning his mission, just his methods. Especially as it feels like he's hindering rather than helping his client.
appoo Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Very likely he found out about it after. Chlamydia is wildly common and is treated immediately by the attending physician when you test positive or have been exposed. It’s not something people are generally knowing they have until told they were exposed or w symptoms. He told her to get tested the day or two after the incident happened, whenever the cops had her do those phone calls
BullBuchanan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: A lot of people are going after this guy but he’s a career attorney fighting for victims of sexual misconduct. It seems folks used the fact that he follows adult entertainers on Twitter as an attempt to discredit him. In some cases it appears he legally represents them. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/san-diego-taxpayers-fund-15-million-payment-to-nude-dancers/169269/
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: No, he didn't admit to that. He suggested she get tested, a completely rational suggestion for someone who sleeps with random men at parties and (consensual or not) just had sexual contact with a number at once. Wow, if you think that’s common practice then you’ve been doing life, very very wrong. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: He's not representing himself well in this specific instance though He says in some of his videos that every time the victim is attack so he attacks back.
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: It’s pretty easy to tell all the individuals who have their own skeletons in their closets coming out to defend this piece of trash. Why DEFEND Araiza at all? To silence any other women who have the courage to come forward? You don’t know anything except charges have been levied. What grounds do you have to defend such abhorrent accusations? Every stupid emoji, every baseless defense on indefensible actions speaks volumes to your own personal character, and which virtues you hold true, if any. If any of you taking the stance of blindly defending this dbag just because he he’s got a Buffalo on his helmet, as your wives what they think, or daughters, or mothers.. Most are not defending him - simply sticking with the mantra innocent until proven guilt and letting the legal process play out. If he is charged and found guilty then he deserves the punishment he will get. 1 1 1
BillsFanSD Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Wait he had sex with her knowing he had an STD? Or he found out about it after? If it's the former I'd probably cut him on that alone. This is the problem with making snap judgements based on emotion. You end up locking yourself into a position ("this guy must be cut," "it's a shakedown," etc.) and then, human nature being what it is, you backwards-engineer arguments to support that position that you would never have adopted under other circumstances. No NFL team is cutting anybody because they spread an STD. My employer (public university) would never in a million years fire somebody for that. It just isn't a thing that results in discipline with your employer unless you happen to work in some very specialized industries. The rape allegation is extremely serious. If Matt Araiza raped somebody, he should be cut. And prosecuted of course. The rest of the stuff in this complaint is all red herrings. 3 1
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, appoo said: He told her to get tested the day or two after the incident happened, whenever the cops had her do those phone calls It was eleven days after the incident.
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