NoSaint Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:05 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: But why? Do teams have to have reasons to cut players? You don't see the NFLPA complaining about other cuts. Are performance-based cuts flagged a certain way or something? Expand Nope. the only differentiator would be if they later want to go after his inconsequential signing bonus.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 8:50 PM, HappyDays said: Yeah every Bills reporter on Twitter is making it a point to mention that he's still on the team. That means something. Expand It means nothing has happened yet.
Matt_In_NH Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 9:41 PM, NoSaint said: would be reckless not to have a plan b in place even if they currently believe the guy Expand My opinion. There is no plan B. There is going to be a new punter and it’s just a matter of time/process for that to happen. 1 2
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:13 PM, NoSaint said: Nope. the only differentiator would be if they later want to go after his inconsequential signing bonus. Expand Because this a) does not involve the NFL and b) is a civil suit and not a criminal case, the Bills have to dot their i's and cross their t's with Araiza. Making sure everything they do is air tight.
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 9:50 PM, DRsGhost said: Why didn't you tell us then? Expand Missed it - as did most people! But the Bills front office WERE informed then.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:14 PM, Bermuda Triangle said: Expand So if you bought one, it's a collector's item now. 1
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:08 PM, Buffalo716 said: I would lose complete faith In everything if our judicial system was covering up the gang rape of a woman Like just turned a blind eye despite overwhelming evidence Expand I think the young woman's journal, which her lawyer made public, tells the story of this case. She was very intoxicated. She has only a hazy memory of the events and can't clearly identify who was involved or who did what when. She can't even testify as to whether the marks on her neck are hickeys or strangulation marks, she doesn't recall. And now that her journal has been made public and presented by her attorney as something she wrote at the time, any defense attorney can subpoena it and enter it as evidence of that. I'd be pretty surprised if the detectives and DA didn't believe that something seriously bad, a gang rape, happened to this woman. But cases like this are notoriously difficult to prosecute. The only way the Vanderbilt rape case succeeded is because the fools involved took pictures and videos, which the police recovered.
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:16 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Because this a) does not involve the NFL and b) is a civil suit and not a criminal case, the Bills have to dot their i's and cross their t's with Araiza. Making sure everything they do is air tight. Expand they do not. Because there is zero consequence for doing whatever they want and cutting him today. Beane could get drunk and cut 4 guys for looking at him funny at practice today.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:05 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: But why? Do teams have to have reasons to cut players? You don't see the NFLPA complaining about other cuts. Are performance-based cuts flagged a certain way or something? Expand Because Araiza hasn't violated any NFL behavior rules or been charged in a crime. He's sued in a civil case.
Matt_In_NH Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 People upset the bills have not just cut him immediately need to take a deep breath. That may be their initial reaction but they need to be sure they have all the information,both for and against The punter. review it and make a collective decision for the team.
Breakout Squad Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 So he’s no longer practicing and his jersey isn’t available on the Bills store. Press conference has to address his release or placement on some sort of exemption list. Bills are being very coy during all this. 1 1
Bermuda Triangle Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:17 PM, PromoTheRobot said: So if you bought one, it's a collector's item now. Expand BRB, loading up on Daniel Joseph jerseys
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:20 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Because Araiza hasn't violated any NFL behavior rules or been charged in a crime. He's sued in a civil case. Expand they can cut him cause they feel like it.
Breakout Squad Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:20 PM, Bermuda Triangle said: BRB, loading up on Daniel Joseph jerseys Expand I feel for the rubes that bought Peterman jerseys. 1
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) On 8/27/2022 at 10:21 PM, NoSaint said: they can cut him cause they feel like it. Expand Isn’t that exactly what cuts are? The coaches make gut feeling calls on who earned a spot etc etc EDIT, my bad I thought it said they CANT cut him cause they feel like it. apologies Edited August 27, 2022 by Rc2catch
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:01 PM, YoloinOhio said: Not yet Expand Has Vorse, or can anyone else, commented on the "speed forced on them by the NFLPA" aspect? What aspects of the NFLPA/CBA prevent the Bills from just saying "See Ya!" and cutting Araiza? I don't disagree but I'd love to hear someone who knows something spell it out.
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:20 PM, Breakout Squad said: So he’s no longer practicing and his jersey isn’t available on the Bills store. Press conference has to address his release or placement on some sort of exemption list. Bills are being very coy during all this. Expand Yep it’s seems like after “more work done” they are effectively ready to make this disappear. 1 1
Buffalo716 Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) On 8/27/2022 at 10:18 PM, Beck Water said: I think the young woman's journal, which her lawyer made public, tells the story of this case. She was very intoxicated. She has only a hazy memory of the events and can't clearly identify who was involved or who did what when. She can't even testify as to whether the marks on her neck are hickeys or strangulation marks, she doesn't recall. And now that her journal has been made public and presented by her attorney as something she wrote at the time, any defense attorney can subpoena it and enter it as evidence of that. I'd be pretty surprised if the detectives and DA didn't believe that something seriously bad, a gang rape, happened to this woman. But cases like this are notoriously difficult to prosecute. The only way the Vanderbilt rape case succeeded is because the fools involved took pictures and videos, which the police recovered. Expand I don’t doubt that something happened But a rape kit should be able to get DNA and everything… Especially if she went to the cops right after There should be a Lot of evidence Edited August 27, 2022 by Buffalo716
fergie's ire Posted August 27, 2022 Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 10:21 PM, NoSaint said: they can cut him cause they feel like it. Expand They can. However, they can't, for example, cut him because he's unvaccinated. McDermott got in trouble for suggesting that he might do that last year. You can cut someone for no reason. You can't, however, cut them for any reason. Some reasons will get you in trouble with the union...and this might be one of those.
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